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Old 11-21-2004, 06:57 PM
snowbank snowbank is offline
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Default Inside draw plus the flush draw... I PUSH

I have K-10 spades. Flop is J-A-8, 2 spades. 1/2 NL. I bet $4. I get raised to $10. I have about $40 left and I push. Correct?
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:42 PM
Shilly Shilly is offline
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Default Re: Inside draw plus the flush draw... I PUSH

Is the ace a spade?
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Old 11-21-2004, 11:47 PM
jtr jtr is offline
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Default Re: Inside draw plus the flush draw... I PUSH

Probably fine -- there's got to be some fold equity here.

I did something similar a couple of hours ago in a Party $50 NL game: KQ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] for me, flop comes J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I bet $3 into a $3.50 pot, get raised to $11, and push for $40 more. A bit nutty looking, and it certainly led to a lecture from the other guy when I made the flush on the end. But my thoughts were that with a gutshot, 2 overcards, and a 2nd-nut flush draw, I looked in good shape against someone with AJo, for instance, but I didn't want to be looking at a blank turn card and wondering what to do.

Turns out the guy had J9o, for 2 pair on the flop. Still, doing some work with pokercalculator and some maths of my own, I figure I was only about 60/40 behind if I'd seen his cards and knew he would call. If we add in the effects of even a modest (let's say 25%) chance that he'll fold, plus the weaker hands he might have when he pulled the flop reraise (e.g., AJ, an OESD), it's amazing how little needs to be in the pot before the push becomes justifiable.

But back to your hand: how much in the pot when you pushed? Is your flush draw to the nuts? What's the other guys preflop call and postflop aggression stats?
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