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Old 11-21-2004, 02:01 PM
vmacosta vmacosta is offline
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Default Push with the worst hand?

Greetings all,
I am a first-time poster on this site looking for advice on a NLH hand, though I've been perusng threads for some time now.

Anyway, the game is NLH (CA B&M casino and you can buy-in for whatever you want, thank god [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]), $2/$3 blinds and we're 4-handed. The two players in question in this hand and I have just moved froma 12/24 limit game, so even though this is the first time I've played with them before, I am cnfident that they are unimaginative, straight-forward, tight players and they view me as aggressive (and a bit reckless?)
The players in question have the following stakes in front of them:
Me: $500
GUY: $166
GAL: ~$750
UTG: $100

Anyway, I am holding the KQ of spades in the BB. The UTG folods, GUY comes in for a raise of $10 on the button. GAL in SB gives a huff and makes it $25 to go. At this point, I am not prepared to fold, as I have position over gal and as I stated previously, both players are unimaginative and I believe I have good control over them. Furthermore, if I flop a huge hand and they have a piece, I expect to win an abnormally large pot due to my image and post-flop skills. The only problem is that GUY is the short-stack and I would rather play heads up with GAL and position. So I make it $60 to go.

GUY calls while making big "bully" motions towards his chips, so I am fairly confident he has a pocket pair btwn 77 and JJ. The GAL calls with another huff, so I still feel she is playing a big ace, AK or AQ an perhaps AJs.
At this point there is $129 in the pot (I left out the blind money when reporting PF raises before).

The flop is:
10h 5s 2d

GAL checks and I make it $100 to go. I do this for two reasons:
1) It is about what I think GUY has in front of him (actually he turns out to have only $93 which may make an even stronger case for my play).
2) I clearly don't have the best hand (and I need the pot to be heads up since the flop provided little help) and am 99% sure GAL will fold if GUY calls.
3) If GUY folds (and how could he if has a pair!), it will put pressure on GAL if all she has is AK and put me in good position for an all-in move on the turn (remember, she is quite tight and unimaginative).



Anyway, the end result was that GUY calls with 99 and GAL folds [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] However, two blanks fell on the river and I lost the pot. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Everbody at the table thought I was crazy and must not care about money after that (which I don't mind since they often will pay me off dearly for giving me that image). I really didn't care though, because I felt like I had made a reasonable gamble here. As I figured it at the time, the pot was offering me nearly 2.5:1 and (since I was almost positive nobody had AA, KK, and 90% sure nobody had QQ), I had two overcards and multiple backdoor possibilities. I put myself at approximately %30 if called by GUY which is 2.3:1 (actually, according to software analysis done this morning, it was really 30.5%, so my math skills, which have always been my biggest asset, were right on last night). If GAL called, I was 70-90% sure she would lay down if the turn brought no help and I pushed all-in (and by then, given the pot size of $339 and my remaining chips after the PF and F acton of ~$275, this was worth the shot). So I leave this one to you guys. Should I have folded PF? Just called? Then what would I do on the flop? Perhaps I could have represented a 10 better that way? Thanks for your time and sorry about the lack of icons and stuff...I'll have to learn how to make more animated posts next time.
Excited first-time poster,
Victor

P.S. The first poll applies to PF and the second to F. vmacosta@berkeley.edu
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