Pet Peeves with the burn card

captZEEbo1 · #1 10-27-2004, 01:39 PM

Two things drive me nuts about the burn card.

1) When people accidentally flip up the first card, and then go, oh wait, I forgot to burn, and then put that one that they showed the table face down, then put up the next one.

2) When people get ready for the turn by dealing the 3 cards on the flop, and immediately burning the card, so the top card on the deck is the one for the turn.
The ENTIRE and ONLY point of the burn card is in case the deck is marked somehow, people won't have a huge advantage by knowing the next card (knowing one card that WON'T be shown is a lot less important than knowing the next card that WILL be shown).

People act like it's very important that it's the specific card in the deck, even though every card has an equal chance of being shown (assuming good shuffle).

geerussell · #2 10-27-2004, 02:34 PM

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Two things drive me nuts about the burn card.

1) When people accidentally flip up the first card, and then go, oh wait, I forgot to burn, and then put that one that they showed the table face down, then put up the next one.

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I'd think this should always be a re-shuffle situation

smoore · #3 10-27-2004, 02:49 PM

1) Yeah, it's a mistake but it's no misdeal. Can't misdeal it, the first round of betting has already been completed. Smack them and move on.

2) Make them stop doing this.

Yawkey · #4 10-27-2004, 04:56 PM

You're absolutly right with number 2, drives me crazy. However if you are playing with new people and are not too sure about their poker skills, this is a sure tell that the person doing this is fairly new to poker and/or has not done much homework on playing well. Watch out for the guys who keep the cards on the table at all times, deals and burns properly, does not splash the pot and uses all proper poker etiquette. A shark warning should be going off in your head when you see this.

b21bballer · #5 10-30-2004, 02:49 PM

I totally agree with #2. People do this and deal out the damn cards face down all the way to the river. Is it that hard to just wait. Then people muck their cards and get the flop screwed up.

emp1346 · #6 10-30-2004, 03:58 PM

Yeah, I agree with number two, but really, being worried about marked cards? Come on. It's stupid. Most home games you're playing with people you know, and most games where I'm playing with people I don't know is at a casino / card room.

Yeah it's amateur to burn prematurely, but it's also just a home game.

Yawkey · #7 10-30-2004, 06:04 PM

I would argue that it is more important at a home game to burn cards properly than at a casino. In a home game the cards are not switched up with brand new decks every hour or so. Often people use cards that are months or even years old giving them distinct inconsistantcies. If someone is not burning properly and you know you are going to get your money card what's to stop you from taking advantage of that knowledge even if it is a friendly game. Now I know that most of the time no one has a clue or even a thought about looking for this at a home game. Practicing proper poker etiquette really does make the game better and run much smoother, when people are dealing properly others are not worried about cheating or mis-deals and they can be friendly and have good conversation. Besides if you take the time to teach your friends how to do it the right way in a friendly environment it saves them some embarrassment when they play in a new game where etiquette is important.

MaGi · #8 10-30-2004, 08:14 PM

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Yeah, I agree with number two, but really, being worried about marked cards? Come on. It's stupid. Most home games you're playing with people you know, and most games where I'm playing with people I don't know is at a casino / card room.
Yeah it's amateur to burn prematurely, but it's also just a home game.

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That is one of the dumbest posts that I have ever seen. Nobody listen to him, please.

Stork · #9 10-30-2004, 08:36 PM

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Yeah, I agree with number two, but really, being worried about marked cards? Come on. It's stupid. Most home games you're playing with people you know, and most games where I'm playing with people I don't know is at a casino / card room.
Yeah it's amateur to burn prematurely, but it's also just a home game.

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That is one of the dumbest posts that I have ever seen. Nobody listen to him, please.

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Yoooooooooouur'e helful!

MaGi · #10 10-30-2004, 08:41 PM

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Yeah, I agree with number two, but really, being worried about marked cards? Come on. It's stupid. Most home games you're playing with people you know, and most games where I'm playing with people I don't know is at a casino / card room.
Yeah it's amateur to burn prematurely, but it's also just a home game.

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That is one of the dumbest posts that I have ever seen. Nobody listen to him, please.

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Yoooooooooouur'e helful!

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Generally speaking I think so, but think about what he said, it is ridiculous.