interesting hand.

goofball · #1 10-11-2004, 09:53 PM

big pot concepts anyone?

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO raises, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 3-bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero caps, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (28.66 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (20.33 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls $9 (All-In), CO calls.

River: (30.63 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players, 1 all-in)
UTG checks, CO bets, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 32.63 BB

ActionBob · #2 10-11-2004, 10:53 PM

big pot concepts anyone?

Big Pot Concept #1: This pot wouldn't be so big if you had folded preflop.

-ActionBob

elindauer · #3 10-11-2004, 10:58 PM

Preflop: why are you capping? Your hand isn't that good.

flop: raising makes little sense as almost everyone has already called a bet. You'll only limit the field if UTG 3-bets, which won't be particularly good news for your KQ. Just call.

turn: now we're talking. You can really make someone fold a hand that you want out, and since you're going to call 2 cold anyways, the extra bet is worth the investment. Hopefully CO has AJ and you make someone fold an overpair, winning with a river Q or K. Good tough 3-bet. I suspect others will disagree, but I like the play.

river: Raise. CO just called the turn 3-bet, you probably have him beat.

Good luck.
Eric

Barry · #4 10-11-2004, 11:00 PM

OMG!!!

Well I guess you played the river OK.

Your 1st mistake was calling the 1st raise cold, then you did everything that you could to lose the most $.

goofball · #5 10-11-2004, 11:56 PM

ironic to think what is admittedly the most laggish pot i've ever played is now the biggest 15 pot i've ever won [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

PapaDeuce · #6 10-12-2004, 01:11 PM

and just think, if it didn't go perfect, perfect you'd still be yelling at party poker for folding your hand preflop like you should have done.

Philuva · #7 10-12-2004, 01:25 PM

Interestingly you managed to play every street wrong.

I would have folded preflop.

Flop - I would have called.

Turn - I would have called.

River I would have raised.

hockey1 · #8 10-12-2004, 01:38 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Interestingly you managed to play every street wrong.

I would have folded preflop.

Flop - I would have called.

Turn - I would have called.

River I would have raised.

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't be so harsh. The turn raise was ok.

Paluka · #9 10-12-2004, 02:03 PM

I actually think this is an ok spot to call a raise preflop. You have position and there are a bunch of limpers, so there is a bunch of dead-money and the cutoff could be trying to buy the button with a hand like JTs. The cap preflop is pointless and costly. Starting with the cap, the rest of the hand is terrible. Pushing backdoor draws on paired boards is not normally a good idea. You could be drawing dead on the flop, or easily reverse-dominated. The turn opens up new opportunities to be drawing dead, but you put in 3 bets.

CanKid · #10 10-12-2004, 05:50 PM

If it was KQs rather than KQos, would his preflop limp re raise vs. a feild of 7 be good? Curious cause I often do that.