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Old 10-07-2004, 02:50 PM
ChicagoTroy ChicagoTroy is offline
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Default How many BB/100 should one expect to lose in the blinds?

As my PT database grows, I'm starting to look more at blind defense. How many BB/100 (if a decimal there is an appropriate measurment) should a winning player be losing there?
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Old 10-07-2004, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: How many BB/100 should one expect to lose in the blinds?

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As my PT database grows, I'm starting to look more at blind defense. How many BB/100 (if a decimal there is an appropriate measurment) should a winning player be losing there?

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A winning player would generally be ahead from their blinds, not losing.
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Old 10-07-2004, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: How many BB/100 should one expect to lose in the blinds?

Nah, everybody is down in the blinds.
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Old 10-07-2004, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: How many BB/100 should one expect to lose in the blinds?

The way I see it you should look at the next number over in PT. What you would have won or or lost with blinds added back. If that number is positive you are fine. If it's negative you may have some concern.
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Old 10-07-2004, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: How many BB/100 should one expect to lose in the blinds?

I have 130,000 hands ranging from 3/6 to 15/30 with a win rate of 1.5 BB/100 on this database. Mine are BB -.23, SB -.13

Hope that helps, and I hope I'm not really sposed to be ahead in the blinds, cause if thats the case I must suck at blinds! Hopefully somebody really good will throw in here.

Steve
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Old 10-07-2004, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: How many BB/100 should one expect to lose in the blinds?

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and I hope I'm not really sposed to be ahead in the blinds, cause if thats the case I must suck at blinds! Hopefully somebody really good will throw in here.


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Maybe I just assumed. My personal numbers have me slightly ahead from the blinds so I somewhat figured this was the norm, I could be incorrect.
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Old 10-07-2004, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: How many BB/100 should one expect to lose in the blinds?

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I have 130,000 hands ranging from 3/6 to 15/30 with a win rate of 1.5 BB/100 on this database. Mine are BB -.23, SB -.13

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How are you calculating BB -.23 and SB -.13? I only have a dollar amount, and calculating across various limits/hands/bets would be a pain the tookus.
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Old 10-07-2004, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: How many BB/100 should one expect to lose in the blinds?

I have almost 40k hands in PT. The limits I've played are .25/.5 - 2/4. Total win rate is 2.25 BB/100. In the blinds it's -.18 BB and -.12 SB.

I highly doubt anyone could be a long term winner from either blind position.
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Old 10-07-2004, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: How many BB/100 should one expect to lose in the blinds?

I'm -0.14 and -0.04, playing the 6max 5-10 over 35k hands. Blind defense is obviously much more important in 6max than full ring, and I'm pretty sure it's normal for blind numbers to be "less bad" for the 6max.
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Old 10-07-2004, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: How many BB/100 should one expect to lose in the blinds?

It is in poker tracker under position stats. BB won per hand in each position. We are talking about that stat arn't we? I will check the original post again.
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