3 x QQ hands - 50$ Party tables

ipp147 · #1 09-30-2004, 03:17 PM

Whats your move and why,

Hand 1,

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MP1 ($22.97)
MP2 ($15.55)
MP3 ($79.80)
CO ($112.05)
Button ($50)
Hero ($43.30)
BB ($43.70)
UTG ($44)
UTG+1 ($80.30)
UTG+2 ($41.68)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 raises to $5, 6 folds, Hero calls $4.50, BB raises to $43.7 (All-In), UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $38.70, Hero ????

Hand 2

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MP2 ($51.10)
MP3 ($50)
CO ($38.30)
Button ($48.50)
Hero ($106)
BB ($35.80)
UTG ($82.60)
UTG+1 ($78)
UTG+2 ($45.75)
MP1 ($38.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
5 folds, MP3 raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($9) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $10, BB raises to $20, MP3 raises to $47 (All-In), Hero ???

Hand 3

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UTG ($53.70)
UTG+1 ($49)
UTG+2 ($34.05)
MP1 ($92.95)
Hero ($86.25)
MP3 ($19.25)
CO ($80.60)
Button ($54.40)
SB ($112.10)
BB ($24)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $4, 4 folds, BB calls $3, UTG folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB raises to $20 (All-In), Hero ???

amoeba · #2 09-30-2004, 03:20 PM

fold, fold, call.

on second hand why no reraise preflop?

poolshark · #3 09-30-2004, 03:22 PM

No raise on first and second? why?????

ipp147 · #4 09-30-2004, 03:45 PM

In retrospect I want to say stop and go, but in reality I can't play QQ [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

pfkaok · #5 09-30-2004, 03:53 PM

Yeah, it'd be tough to call 1 unless you know the guy to be really LAG PF.

2 I think you gotta reraise at least something, maybe make it 8-12 to go, then things should get easier.

3 You can't get away on flop for min-raise when its all in... You're very likely to get shown flushdraw or 10's, and you're gettin great odds from the pot even if you are a slight underdog, say vs. AK Ds.

Wayfare · #6 09-30-2004, 03:59 PM

You haven't given us any reads or any other information we would need to make the best judgement available, so I'll just say what I would do if it was my first playable hand at the table.

1: Muck -- You're at best coin flip with both, but probably very far behind one or the other. BB probably has AK, UTG+1 has AA/KK/QQ

2: Muck -- While it's possible one or both are on flush draws, the likelihood of one of them having a set seems far greater.

3: Call - He doesn't have any money left and you have an overpair. You're getting 3-1 on the call, so this should be a very easy decision.

ipp147 · #7 09-30-2004, 04:20 PM

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You haven't given us any reads or any other information we would need to make the best judgement available, so I'll just say what I would do if it was my first playable hand at the table.

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Yeah sorry man, I hadn't been at the tables long and was multi-tabling as well as looking through this site (sloppy I know)

Hand 1 - I mucked - opponents show AK and KK [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Hand 2 - I mucked - opponents show A8 and JJ [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Hand 3 - I called - opponent shows me TT [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Tilt · #8 09-30-2004, 04:26 PM

First hand, fold. You don't want to go 3 way all in with QQ preflop, unless you know you are playing with maniacs. If you don't have a read on that preflop you will soon enough.

Second hand, fold. I think its farfetched to think that the raise and the all-in are both behind QQ at this point.

Third hand, call. Alot of hands will have pushed there, many of which you beat.

amoeba · #9 09-30-2004, 04:31 PM

you must reraise preflop in hand 2. you could have gotten both to fold if not at least the A8 hand to fold.

With a preflop reraise, the JJ is less likely to go all in on the flop.

you should also reraise hand 1 preflop but maybe you had a read where villain only raises preflop to 5xbb with monsters and you were calling your Qs for set value.