River bet on 2 hands online

[SA125]

Limping PF is obviously questionable in both, but I've been trying to mix up my play. Anyway, these two river bets had me thinking.

Hand 1 - I'm EP2 and limp with TdTs. T/A MP1 raises. Unknown SB calls and 3 see the flop for 7 sb's.

Flop - 5s 6c Js....ch'd to raiser who bets/call-call. 10 sb's.

Turn - 2d....same action. 3 to the river for 8 BB's.

River - 9d....SB ch's and I bet.




Hand 2 - I'm in SB with AKo. Folded to me and I complete. T/A BB ch's.

Flop - 4h 6h Jc ....goes ch/call.

Turn - 9h ....ch/call.

River - 4s .... I bet.

[bicyclekick]

it's not questionable, really. screw mixing up your play like that online, nobody is noticing. Raise pf.

I'd lead taht flop and call a raise and lead the turn again, if he raises I'd fold.

Hand 2. If you were going for the limp-re-raise fine, otherwise that's horrible. Bet the flop at least. check call?!?! wtf?!

[SA125]

I play thousands and thousands of these same TT and AKo hands online very differently, PF and pre-river, just like you suggest. Your points are good ones and acknowledged as such. My question is, based on the line I took, what do you think about the river bets? If your answer is that it doesn't matter because of the PF and pre-river action, no problem.

[bicyclekick]

Hand one I like your river bet. If you're raised you gotta fold, though.

Hand 2 I htink you couldn't possibly have played the hand more retardedly, and no, I don't like your bet. He'll fold hands you beat and may bet hands you beat so given that you've played so retardly so far you may as well check and call.

[SA125]

"Hand one I like your river bet. If you're raised you gotta fold, though"

Yeah, I agree. But he just called. SB folded and he showed AA. I figured I was a coin flip there and bet. He didn't miss his AK or AQ.

"Hand 2 - given that you've played so retardly so far you may as well check and call"

LMAO. That's good. "Folded to me in the SB w/AK, I raise and BB folded" happens a lot to everyone. Based on my weak/tight approach here, it got interesting on different levels.

The BB knew I would raise a good hand and vice versa. The fact that BB didn't raise my limp eliminated a mid-big A, a mid pair, a decent K or a good Q.

Based on my limp, I expected BB to fire at my ch's on the flop and turn. I had planned to ch/r the turn unimproved, but felt like I was inducing bluff bets with best crap here. River confirmed it. I won. He called and didn't show.

I've rarely taken this line in this spot and figured I'd get something along the "retard" PF-flop line response, but thought maybe the PF ch from a T/A BB and his firing at rags would make the AK river bet something to think about. Oh well.