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Old 09-03-2004, 01:06 PM
Noodles Noodles is offline
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Default those crappy 2nd pair/wk hands

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Preflop: Noodles is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Noodles checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Noodles checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.
Anyone bet here,i didnt think there was any point

Turn: (2.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Noodles checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.
I was tempted here but didnt ,should i have?

River: (2.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Noodles bets</font>, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.
No change sense turn so i bet,but then thought who will call? less than 77,what is the chance that they are in here.
Although sometimes when it is checked tru on the flop and turn and someone bets the riv some will call with crap as thay suspect a bluff.Hmmmm

How to play this? I think maybe i shoulda bet the turn,i think now that betting the riv was wrong,maybe i don't know [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Final Pot: 4.25 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 4.25 BB, between MP2 and Noodles.</font>
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Old 09-03-2004, 02:00 PM
ohgeetee ohgeetee is offline
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Default Re: those crappy 2nd pair/wk hands

I would have bet the turn, and i think your river bet is fine as well. I think its a value bet. I would have expected a bet from someone else if they spiked a pair on the turn or river.

I doubt I would have bet on the flop, but i'd like to see what someone with more experience would do.
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Old 09-03-2004, 02:19 PM
IndieMatty IndieMatty is offline
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Default Re: those crappy 2nd pair/wk hands

These hands are my biggest weakness I think, I'd love to see more feedback. I bet that turn because I now have a flush draw. Right? j-9, big lick? nahhh
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Old 09-03-2004, 02:58 PM
Noodles Noodles is offline
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Default Re: those crappy 2nd pair/wk hands

yes i definetly think i shouldve bet the turn,maybe riv was a slight value bet,
any more opinions on these type of situations?
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Old 09-03-2004, 03:05 PM
TripleH68 TripleH68 is offline
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Default Re: those crappy 2nd pair/wk hands

Bet the turn fer sure.
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Old 09-03-2004, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: those crappy 2nd pair/wk hands

I bet the turn for 2 reasons - 1. you may have the best hand on the turn ( no one has shown any interest in it )

2. You now have a flush draw, so if you trail ( a big if - see 1 ) you have the ability to draw out on them.
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Old 09-03-2004, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: those crappy 2nd pair/wk hands

I think you have to bet the flop here sometimes. The flop is very ragged with no draws, and you may very well be ahead. You may or may not win right away, but you will fold some guys and get them out.
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