Thank You SSHE & 2+2 Forums

Vern · #1 08-16-2004, 02:26 AM

I share this because before learning from these forums and complimenting that with Ed's book, I think I would have wanted to weakly fold the flop, turn and river too much. (That and having chesspain call me weak/tight hurt)

UTG+1 is LAGish
MP2 is new to the table
MP3 is a semi-Loose and Passive
CO is new to the table
SB is the poster child for Loose/Passive

Table as a whole has been loose by Star's standards.

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed)
Props to Bison for his converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO caps, Hero calls, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

I don't understand what CO could be holding to Cold Call two, then cap it when it gets back around. I want to fear larger pocket pair but figure it is more likely he is a maniac I have not yet identified. 

Flop: (25 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.

 I am open to the suggestion that I should have raised, but with that King on board, all the pre-flop aggression and no obvious draw on board, my plan was to call one and if it was check-raised call one more. If everyone else folds I am still getting 26:1 to hit my two outs so I should call. Old me would not have folded here, but he would have been scared instead of confident in his play.

Turn: (15 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Again, I would have been worried about the check-raise with this large field, but figured if some body had a hand already beating my draw, they would let me know here on the turn. Now I figure each 10 is only worth half an out, 1 out total (would have been .75 if the T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] was not in my hand) and each queen is worth half an out but the Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is only worth a quarter out, so I figure I have 2.75 outs on the turn, I quickly figured 16:1 in my head, the actual number is 15.73:1. I am getting 16:1 to call if no one else calls and figure the same thing, if it gets check-raised by anyone I will call one more. I have what amounts to a break even call in a huge pot. 

River: (20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

 Wheeee! I made my one card straight, it is unlikely there is another ten out there since I hold two but the queen that hit had to be a spade. Now a new player leads out and gets a call (the original CC/Cap from Pre-Flop). I debated on raising the river but figure it is safer to just call. My thinking was, I have CO beat, he capped, bet/bet/called, so I think a straight beats him, but I worried about that flush from SB, a Loose/Passive that just led into 4 other players on a scary river.

Final Pot: 23 BB
Main Pot: 23 BB, between CO, Hero and SB. > Pot won by Hero (23 BB).

Results in white below: 
SB shows Jh 9h (two pair, jacks and nines).
CO shows Kd 8d (one pair, kings).
Hero shows Ts Th (straight, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins 23 BB. 

Like I said, I think I might have chickened out on the flop with the excuse that there were too many players left to act behind me to make even 26:1 to look good. Same on the turn. Feel free to criticize any portion of the hand, I am still happy and it is not just result orientated thinking but because I saw my outs and measured them 'fairly'. Thanks to all who have responded to my posts in the past.

Vern