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Old 07-06-2004, 06:30 AM
Matty Matty is offline
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Default Second Pair Counterfeited - Do I Still Bet?

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="666666">5 folds</font>, Hero checks,

Flop: (3.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

River: (6.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 9.25 BB, between Hero, UTG+2 and MP1.</font>



I didn't even notice one of my pairs was counterfeited until after I'd already bet.
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Old 07-06-2004, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: Second Pair Counterfeited - Do I Still Bet?

Hard, split pot maybe? I cant see anyone on AA or KK, no one has raised you at all so I cant see a set or trips, they either have an under pair or a Queen, betting the river here is ok.

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Old 07-06-2004, 05:11 PM
Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) is offline
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Default Re: Second Pair Counterfeited - Do I Still Bet?

I think I would check/call the river. If you bet, you will fold out singleton diamonds, and you will get raised (probably) by a T or (definitely) by a made flush. If you check, you lose less if you are behind, and you may induce a busted flush draw to bet.
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Old 07-06-2004, 05:30 PM
SofaCoach SofaCoach is offline
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Default Re: Second Pair Counterfeited - Do I Still Bet?

check-call the river. It's somewhat unlikely that someone has a 10 or made flush but if they do you avoid being raised. It is more likely that either:

A) one of them has a Q and has you outkicked. They may check through and you save a bet, or more likely they bet and same difference as betting out.

or B) (and here is why you check) that one or both have a big single diamond. They missed their draw and would fold if you bet, but when you check they may try to pick up the pot with a bluff.
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