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Old 10-02-2005, 12:22 AM
Malachii Malachii is offline
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Default AA in Raised and Reraised Pot... Decision Time

As always, comments on flop and turn play are welcome. Villain is like 36/8 over 50 hands, so I really don't have any meaningful data on him. Haven't seen him get too out of line.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em (NL$100) <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link

Hero ($134.45)
UTG ($36.10)
MP ($32.85)
CO ($177.50)
Button ($180.10)
SB ($98.00)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $19.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, CO calls $14.00.

Flop: ($42.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $25.00</font>, Hero calls $25.00.

Turn: ($92.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO pushes all in</font>, Hero...
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Old 10-02-2005, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: AA Deep Stacks in Raised and Reraised Pot... Decision Time

those stacks arent deep

raise more pre-flop, you're OOP

bet flop bet turn

if there's anything left on the river, stick that in too
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Old 10-02-2005, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: AA Deep Stacks in Raised and Reraised Pot... Decision Time

This looks like an easy call

Some one check my math, but there are 12 combos of AK, and 3 combos of KK, so....
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Old 10-02-2005, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: AA Deep Stacks in Raised and Reraised Pot... Decision Time

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those stacks arent deep

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You're right. Let me edit title.
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Old 10-02-2005, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: AA Deep Stacks in Raised and Reraised Pot... Decision Time

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raise more pre-flop, you're OOP

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I agree with this.

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bet flop bet turn

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I'm not sure if this is the best to maximize my value against Villain's hand range. I think if I check/call I can induce him to bet a lot of hands here that would fold if I bet, like TT-QQ. I'm not sure about this though, I'll have to think about it.
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Old 10-02-2005, 12:43 AM
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Some one check my math, but there are 12 combos of AK, and 3 combos of KK, so....

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Eh, 12? I count 6. Not that that really changes anything.
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Old 10-02-2005, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: AA Deep Stacks in Raised and Reraised Pot... Decision Time

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Some one check my math, but there are 12 combos of AK, and 3 combos of KK, so....

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Eh, 12? I count 6. Not that that really changes anything.

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Yup...you are a favorite here. Not to mention if he is a donk that cant get away form JJ QQ. I try and get all my chips in here and expect to win ~70% of the time
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Old 10-02-2005, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: AA Deep Stacks in Raised and Reraised Pot... Decision Time

actually with the K on the board and the 2 aces in your hand, there are 3 combinations of KK and 6 combinations of AK.
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Old 10-02-2005, 06:43 AM
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Anyways, I really felt I was beat but called anyway. Villain had KK. I didn't suckout. I suppose this call is standard given Villain's range of hands and the price I'm getting from the pot, but it's frustrating when your instincts are screaming at you to fold but you ignore them.

I am interested in hearing more discussion about the check/call versus the leading out on this flop, because I'm not at all convinced that I played this correctly.
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Old 10-02-2005, 06:54 AM
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Anyways, I really felt I was beat but called anyway. Villain had KK. I didn't suckout. I suppose this call is standard given Villain's range of hands and the price I'm getting from the pot, but it's frustrating when your instincts are screaming at you to fold but you ignore them.

I am interested in hearing more discussion about the check/call versus the leading out on this flop, because I'm not at all convinced that I played this correctly.

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Preflop you HAVE to decide what you're doing if a king comes. If you decide preflop that you're backing this with your stack if a king comes then you played it 100% correctly. If you decide that you're NOT backing it with your stack you need to bet out and hope you get raised. At that point you can fold or call and check fold the turn. Folding to a flop raise is preferable though.

Please start thinking one or two streets ahead.
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