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04-23-2005, 12:07 PM
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AQs flop decision
2+2 table, but at this point in the game, I'm not sure who they are, since it's a public table and it started recently. The first 2+2er to show had folded on the flop, so I may be just with the party players now.
-------- Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls. Flop: (12.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls... ------- Here's the notes I put in my poker tracker notes on this hand: -I should have re-raised preflop. -With 4.5 outs and 8.5:1 pot odds, this isn't such a bad call, considering I should be able to get a little action later. However, it could be re-raised behind me, which would suck. -I'm a little curious if this was a good opportunity to try to buy outs with my overcards by three-betting. The remaining players in the hand (BB and UTG) would have to face two cold if I called, but the pot would be pretty big. If I raised that would give them incentive to bugger off. BUT, it could be capped behind me if I did that and I can't count on a free river card. So... Question 1) Re-raise this pf? (I think the answer is yes... I'm damn sure it is, actually, but I've taken a little break from limit recently, so I'm a bit rusty.) Question 2) Who here 3-bets the flop? Does anyone fold? BTW, entity, thanks for coming out. I knew you were a 2+2er since you were playing at the lagfest at the same time and I was watching that table... at this table, I noticed that you were playing well post-flop and winning a whole ton of pots. --Dave. 
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#5
04-23-2005, 12:16 PM
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Re: AQs flop decision
Without reads at a .5/1 table i think a reraise in position is OK preflop, but not necessarily THE play to make, though I could certainly be wrong. On the flop, I think a three bet certainly gets capped and have a feeling CO has a similar big suited ace, possibly with spades, which hampers your chances of winning to the point where folding is my play.
where's this table?
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#8
04-23-2005, 12:25 PM
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Re: AQs flop decision
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[ QUOTE ] Fold the flop. [/ QUOTE ] i.e. discount my outs for the AQ overcards because some of them are going to be spades and it'll be expensive to find out where I stand? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. And you might be reverse dominated as well.
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#9
04-23-2005, 12:26 PM
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Re: AQs flop decision
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I think 3-betting the flop is better than calling. I'd probably fold though. I would've 3-bet PF. Let's build a pot. Rob [/ QUOTE ] Thanks Rob, Agreed re: 3bpf. Since I'm definitely not comfortable raising here, I'd rather fold. Probably a smaller mistake than raising...
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#10
04-23-2005, 12:27 PM
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Re: AQs flop decision
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[ QUOTE ] Fold the flop. [/ QUOTE ] i.e. discount my outs for the AQ overcards because some of them are going to be spades and it'll be expensive to find out where I stand? [/ QUOTE ] Yes and everything Shadow said. I think giving yourself 4.5 outs is very generous here.
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