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Old 07-31-2005, 09:25 PM
chio chio is offline
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Default let\'s review basic concepts

2nd orbit at the table. opponents seem loose with an average amount of aggression.

if you would have bet the flop, tell me what you would do given that you checked the flop.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls, MP (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero...
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Old 07-31-2005, 09:39 PM
sthief09 sthief09 is offline
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Default Re: let\'s review basic concepts

if you had Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and the flop was 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8x6y then I'd call. but here I don't think the bd flush draw is enough to call. the 7 might chop with something like T9, a flush draw could be out there, and so could a set or two pair. also, it could get 3-bet behind you which would suck. I think it's damn close though.
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Old 07-31-2005, 09:41 PM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default Re: let\'s review basic concepts

Call.

Double gutshot+BD 3rd Nut Flush+Reasonably clean overcard.
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Old 07-31-2005, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: let\'s review basic concepts

i think you gotta call this getting 3.5:1. you have at most 14 outs and at worst about 6.
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Old 07-31-2005, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: let\'s review basic concepts

I'd have bet the flop.

I probably 3-bet here, but calling isn't bad. I'm not folding a double-gutshot + 2 overcards, if that's what you're asking. You could have up to 16 outs (including 2 for the bd flush), though if the 7 is to a split, the T is dead, and the bd flush is dead, we've still probably got 9.
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: let\'s review basic concepts

Fold your 3 T outs are worth squat.

JT could be out there so your Q outs arent worth much either

You are pretty much calling 2 with a gutshot

At worst someone could 3bet also so I'd get away from this hand.

To sum up you got a gutshot and a bunch of sucky tainted outs that will likely result in you losing more money if you do hit.

I'd probably raise preflop as well with a poster.
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