Step 5

David100 · #1 02-11-2005, 01:54 PM

Just played in my first step 5, and it is true, the play is attrocious!!! People going all in on loads of hands.

Unfortunately i am out in the 6th hand, but if i had the br, i would definitely love to play here!!!

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

SB (t690)
BB (t1000)
Hero (t1000)
UTG+1 (t1000)
MP1 (t910)
MP2 (t975)
MP3 (t1015)
CO (t1310)
Button (t2100)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t40, 2 folds, MP2 calls t40, MP3 calls t40, 2 folds, SB calls t30, 1 fold.

Flop: (t172.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t200, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: t372.50

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins t372.50. 

and then:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

Button (t650)
SB (t985)
Hero (t1135)
UTG (t1000)
UTG+1 (t910)
MP1 (t935)
MP2 (t975)
MP3 (t1310)
CO (t2100)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t15, 2 folds, MP3 raises to t30, 3 folds, Hero raises to t75, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls t45.

Flop: (t172.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t225, MP3 calls t225.

Turn: (t622.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 calls t835.

River: (t1457.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t1457.50

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ac As (one pair, aces).
MP3 has Ks Qs (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: MP3 wins t1457.50. 

two hands in a row AA. lukcy me!!

David

David100 · #2 02-11-2005, 01:57 PM

on the bubble and the blinds are 50/100. wow!! thats well low from what i am use to.

David

se2schul · #3 02-11-2005, 02:18 PM

I don't know much about STEP 5's, but why were your preflop raises with AA so small?

ss

citanul · #4 02-11-2005, 02:26 PM

i think you need to watch more and learn/think more about the tournaments before you go talking like an idiot.

citanul

swarm · #5 02-11-2005, 02:28 PM

Exactly, I don't like to play AA after the Flop... I would have raised more preflop, you probably still get a caller, and then take it down on the flop and see if they chase.

Slowplaying AA is just asking for trouble because its so hard to get away from mentally. However, when you saw the Q flop on the turn what was your thought process? Didn't KQ seem like a hand for the opponnent?

What other hand would call you preflop, then call a substantial raise on the flop with a sole K on the board but not raise you. KQ fearing AK that's who? On the turn you should have been slowing down not turning it up and going all-in.

I know getting away from AA is difficult but when your at the step 5 level laying down big hands is necessary skill.

David100 · #6 02-11-2005, 02:30 PM

so you would raise more pre flop here?
what would u play differently?

with that flop i would have called as he did. but in general, there is lots of weak play in there. watched a fair few now.

Flame away

David100 · #7 02-11-2005, 02:36 PM

Well, i had not seem this player before and it was early on. i did not put him on KQ. i put him on a likely AK as he had not made hand pre flop and hence he just saw it, or possibly a 10-10 to QQ. i was thinking of checking the turn, but he would automatically bet if he is any good. i feared the QQ, but thought i should preotect if he does not have it.

i regret my weakness pre flop mostly.

David

swarm · #8 02-11-2005, 02:46 PM

personally, I would have raised a bit more say to 100 - 120, I bet he calls that much.

With a super aggressive player might be right to check-raise, but that is a dangerous play with AA, you have to be sure that he is aggressive enough to bet it if he matched his king or bluff at having the K.

I think your flop bet is fine however and the fact he calls it screams he has a K. Plus the fact he only min-raised makes me think it's unlikely he has AK. So i'm putting him on KQ right then and thre.

It looks to me on the flop the Q scared you but instead of slowing down you just pushed all in in hopes of saving the hand that was un-saveable at that point.

To point out play on step level 5 as weak is really discrediting anything you say anyway. Most people there are only making 5 figures a month...

David100 · #9 02-11-2005, 02:53 PM

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It looks to me on the flop the Q scared you but instead of slowing down you just pushed all in in hopes of saving the hand that was un-saveable at that point.

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I do agree with that.

but how many pros are there at this level? i have seen a fair few games and there seems to be a fair few fish (me being a semi fish)!!

David

ZeeJustin · #10 02-11-2005, 03:37 PM

Why overbet the pots so much? You have a very strong hand on a board with no draws. You want action, so dont scare it away.