Must Fold?

crosse91 · #1 06-18-2005, 03:04 AM

i think this is a must fold....and i hated it

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (10 handed) converter

UTG+1 ($201.27)
UTG+2 ($79.8)
MP1 ($98)
MP2 ($100)
MP3 ($95.5)
CO ($111)
Hero ($93)
SB ($167)
BB ($99)
UTG ($91.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, 5 folds, CO calls $1, Hero calls $1, SB raises to $5, 1 fold, UTG calls $4, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($21) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($21) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets $12, UTG raises to $85, CO folds, Hero folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: $118

imported_anacardo · #2 06-18-2005, 03:11 AM

I don't think I understand.

Are you the one holding tens?

Consider raising less; 2.5x the pot or so.

crosse91 · #3 06-18-2005, 03:29 AM

bump b/c i have trouble copying and pasting apparently

THATWACOKID · #4 06-18-2005, 03:39 AM

You cannot lay this down. Assume you have pocket JJ, are you going to make an overbet this huge with the nuts?

imported_anacardo · #5 06-18-2005, 03:44 AM

JJ = not the nuts. There are now four straights on the board. If this had been a 9TJ flop, I'd probably be unable to get away with ten outs twice, but as is, I'd muck & make a small dent in my desk. FWIW, I reraised MY set of tens all-in on MY 9TJ rainbow flop tonight and lost my stack to the nuts. Fucker called an 8xBB raise preflop w/ KQo. I'll eat his kids.

crosse91 · #6 06-18-2005, 03:45 AM

well i don't have jj and i don't think he does either, i think he's got qk- although after watching him play for awhile, 78 is just as likely

soah · #7 06-18-2005, 03:45 AM

I'd bet $15 on the flop. Your hand is usually good there, and if not you'll find out real fast.

crosse91 · #8 06-18-2005, 03:48 AM

a good idea, but the players are calling stations and thats 20% of my stack

also what if just smooth called by villians and the turn is a blank?

soah · #9 06-18-2005, 03:53 AM

Surely someone would have bet the flop with a jack? If a check/call on the flop means they are weak then I bet again on the turn, and take a free showdown. If I don't think they are going to call me with bottom pair, then I check the turn and see what happens on the river.

crosse91 · #10 06-18-2005, 03:54 AM

noted. thank you