ATo

[PokerBob]

Canterbury 15/30 9 handed
i have seen buttonlimp ATo UTG, and also cold-call 2 bets with AKo. Other than that I don't know much about him. BB is bicyclekick.

2 folds, I raise ATo, folds to button who CC's, SB folds, BK calls.
Flop 3 ways: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (i have no spade)

BK bets, I raise, button 3-bets, BK folds, please tell me what to do.

[jason_t]

Call, donk a non-[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] turn and fold to a raise.

[toss]

I'd call and fold the turn UI. I'll showdown when I know more about him.

[PokerBob]

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Call, donk a non-[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] turn and fold to a raise.

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But i may have many chop outs......

[jaxUp]

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Call, donk a non-[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] turn and fold to a raise.

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But i may have many chop outs......

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if you call the flop and he bets the turn, you will be getting 7.5:1 on a call.

I will give you 2 outs for your T for the times you are already behind to AK/he makes better 2 pair/you get counterfeited.

so 2/46 times you win 8.5BB (1 bet on turn and one on river)

I'll give you 5 outs to pair the river, discounted for when you're already behind to AK or A4s (44, whatever...).

5/46 times you win 3.75BB

38/46 times you lose 1BB

2/46*8.5 + 5/46*3.75 + 38/46*(-1) = .37 + .41 - .83 = -.05BB.

I did discount outs a bit, but I didn't take reverse Implied odds into account much (which I think you probably should). IMO, this pushes it towards a fold, despite our chop outs.