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#1
08-12-2005, 01:35 PM
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Was this too aggressive on the flop?
$33 Sit at Party. 5 players left. Blinds 50-100.
I am in middle position with 99. I am chip leader with 1800. Opponent is tight aggressive and in 2nd place with 1600. Opponent directly in front of me raises preflop to 300. I call and everyone else folds. 750 in pot and 2 players to flop Jack [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Opponent leads out for 400. I raise to 800. My opponent reraises all in for 500 more. It's 500 more to me and the pot is 2850. I have 700 left if I fold. I have to call right? 
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#3
08-12-2005, 01:42 PM
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Re: Was this too aggressive on the flop?
Your stack is too shallow to be playing this hand postflop. You don't really have odds to play for set value. Therefore I think you either have to push preflop or fold. If he's a tight player I'd lean toward folding.
When you just smooth call preflop, you need to push/fold after his flop bet. Just minraising really sucks. The way you played it I call his reraise and pray for a 9 to come.
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#4
08-12-2005, 01:50 PM
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Re: Was this too aggressive on the flop?
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$33 Sit at Party. 5 players left. Blinds 50-100. I am in middle position with 99. I am chip leader with 1800. Opponent is tight aggressive and in 2nd place with 1600. Opponent directly in front of me raises preflop to 300. I call and everyone else folds. 750 in pot and 2 players to flop Jack [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Opponent leads out for 400. I raise to 800. My opponent reraises all in for 500 more. It's 500 more to me and the pot is 2850. I have 700 left if I fold. I have to call right? [/ QUOTE ] Bad call with 99. Basically you are hoping for a 9 on the flop or a low board. And what do you do on a low board when your opponent bets out anyway? You are stuck. If you fold you are at 700, and can possibly make a comeback. If you are 100% sure opponent has a jack (or an overpair/set) you need to fold, if you think there is a chance he is bluffing, you have to call. I'm calling then kicking myself afterword.
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#5
08-12-2005, 01:55 PM
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Re: Was this too aggressive on the flop?
I actually posted this hand from the point of view of my Opponent. I am the tight aggressive player who raised first.
The funny thing is, I had Ace [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Queen [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I made a continuation bet and got min raised. I had the odds to call for the flush and the over cards. Here's where I think I screwed up. I figured, if I call the raise I only have 500 left so I might as well go all in. Looking back, if I just call the raise and just bet the turn, I have better fold equity. Is that a better line?
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#6
08-12-2005, 02:38 PM
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Re: Was this too aggressive on the flop?
with the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on this board, I would advocate getting your chips in the middle on the flop, as you are the favorite (though barely) against 99 here. I hate pushing on the non [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] turn. Your opponent will call anyway, unless they are really bad.
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