3/6 Hand History

Ryan Z · #1 07-19-2005, 11:34 PM

Opponent is pretty loose, I put him on an ace or a small pair.

***** Hand History for Game 2392802094 *****
$3/$6 Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, July 19, 23:22:55 EDT 2005
Table Table 15689 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: fathead0015 ( $48 )
Seat 3: stox479 ( $209.25 )
Seat 5: LCohen_1234 ( $108.75 )
Seat 6: pzl2qj ( $270 )
Seat 7: carlstreator ( $104.50 )
Seat 8: SteelheadGLX ( $351 )
Seat 9: JDM12 ( $119.50 )
Seat 10: pokerticker ( $370 )
Seat 2: Mpbrad ( $119 )
Seat 4: shikkle ( $119 )
pokerticker posts small blind [$1].
fathead0015 posts big blind [$3].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to carlstreator [ Qs Qc ]
Mpbrad folds.
stox479 folds.
shikkle folds.
LCohen_1234 folds.
pzl2qj calls [$3].
carlstreator raises [$6].
SteelheadGLX folds.
JDM12 folds.
pokerticker folds.
fathead0015 folds.
pzl2qj calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, 2s, 2h ]
pzl2qj bets [$3].
carlstreator raises [$6].
pzl2qj raises [$6].
carlstreator raises [$6].
pzl2qj calls [$3].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]
pzl2qj bets [$6].
carlstreator raises [$12].
pzl2qj calls [$6].
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
pzl2qj checks.
carlstreator bets [$6].
pzl2qj calls [$6].
carlstreator shows [ Qs, Qc ] two pairs, queens and twos.
pzl2qj shows [ 9h, Kd ] two pairs, kings and nines.
pzl2qj wins $73 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and nines.
Mpbrad has left the table.

Should I have not raised the turn/bet the river?

ArturiusX · #2 07-19-2005, 11:43 PM

Look at how others post their hands before you try. Here's the formatted version:

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, 4 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, Hero caps, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls.

River: (10.66 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 12.66 BB

ArturiusX · #3 07-19-2005, 11:44 PM

One question, if you put him on an ace, why can't you put him on a king?!

Ryan Z · #4 07-19-2005, 11:48 PM

Sorry about the history post. I was using an outdated version of Bison's converter, now defunct with PP recent HH changes. I suppose it makes sense to put him on a king now that I look back. Would you raise for information on the turn or not? When I raised and he just called, I figured I had him beat there, which made me bet the river. Any thoughts?

ArturiusX · #5 07-19-2005, 11:55 PM

No worries, now you know [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

First things first, the fact that he 3-bet you on a 722 flop should send warning bells. Random holdings like A5 etc won't 3-bet here. Since your read isnt specific, I can't tell you if you're in trouble, but it sounds like the villian likes his hand. If hes a true maniac (which he may be), than you might not have to worry and can cap away.

The trouble comes when an overcard hits, and he bets into you. Suddenly, its a lot more likely he has a hand that beats you. If he liked his hand on the flop, it was probably A7, K7, KQ, anything. Since they all contain a hand that beats you, you should probably call down from here.

Raising for information is also a very quick way to waste money. You're never going to fold this to a 3-bet, so why raise? What if he calls your raise, then bets the river? More confusion. You'll never get solid information out of a LAG (or any player for that matter, except maybe a rock), so never bet for information. Put him on a range of hands (a K is likely), and call down.

Ryan Z · #6 07-20-2005, 12:17 AM

Thanks for the advice. I picked up SSH per the recommendation of other forum users recently and am still trying to get the knack of this book. I played 2/4 for the longest time and I didn't feel like my winning was a fluke. I was ultra-aggressive, fairly tight and things went well(I made $6,000+ in under 4 months). I bumped to 5/10 and didn't feel my game was well-rounded. SSH plan seems less aggressive than what I'm used to, but I think I may benefit from this. I'm trying to improve on my pot equity calculations and playing draws better. As I said, I still think I have a ways to go before I understand this book's style, and even if it doesn't end up becoming my own, it will be useful knowledge. Thanks again.

Jinx · #7 07-20-2005, 12:37 AM

This guy calls a capped flop with king high? What determination. I'd probably just call turn and expect him to have A2 or something. sucks you lost in this way.

DemonDeac · #8 07-20-2005, 01:20 AM

add that guy to your buddy list NOW

KDawgCometh · #9 07-20-2005, 01:24 AM

and ours, I'm really glad he posted the HH for this one, I just found me a new buddy [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Ryan Z · #10 07-20-2005, 01:27 AM

I suppose one must sacrifice for the good of all?