collusion for online games?

[snowlarbear]

saw this mentioned in a post about PacPoker... are there many instances of collusion in online games? if so, how badly can it hurt your odds?

[KenProspero]

If it's there, collusion can kill you.

Two players playing in tandem (i.e., communicating what cards they have to each other). One with a weak hand can push up the pot whenever the other has a strong hand.

As to your other question, I'm sure there's some, but have no idea how much. Advice, if you see something that doesn't smell right, leave the table

[Webster]

I've been playing for 3 years at least 15 hours a week and I've ONLY seen collusion (as far as I know) 2 or 3 times and all 3 at Pacific.

Pacific has a core of players that are always there (sort of like a club) and while there are a ton of passive fish there are always a group of "known" tight players there.

I've never seen "known" collusion elsewhere. Perhaps software si to fast to colluse at REAL places.

[snowlarbear]

hmm thanks.. so thats why i keep losing all my money.

[adamstewart]

I didn't see a smiley face of anything, so I can't assume you're being sarcastic.

Either way, I doubt collusion is the major cause of your poker losses.

[snowlarbear]

yeah, i wish it was. many holes to patch up on this money leaking ship.

[benkath1]

While we are on the subject, I don't suppose you see it at lower levels? Under a buck in limits. And when you do, how do you pick up on it? I am playing at pacific ($10 sign on bonus, so none of my own money) and have heard this before.

[wdbaker]

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While we are on the subject, I don't suppose you see it at lower levels? Under a buck in limits. And when you do, how do you pick up on it? I am playing at pacific ($10 sign on bonus, so none of my own money) and have heard this before.

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So you have $10 at Pacific and are worried about collusion... I just don't know what to say... It's times like this that... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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[Webster]

You can spot collusion when 2 players are on opposite sides and one of then raises and reraise trapping somebody in the middle.

Now of course they could just be bad players but if they are somewhat tight and do it a few times I perk up.

A for YOUR problem - Dimes to donuts your leak is post flop and you are always TRYING to see one more card.

You are probebly not getting OUT of your hands fast enough and you are probebly playing overcards and losing because SOMEBODY has that 6, or the other guy had AQ and you had AJ.

[madmisha]

Collusion exists, but it happens in such a minority of the tables you will be at, it shouldn't be much of a factor in you long-term success. This would be especially true at beginning limits.