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Old 08-07-2005, 01:10 AM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
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Default Value bet this river?

Pacific 100NL full ring

Seat 10: Hero ( $119.75 )
Seat 7: Villain ( $102.8 )

slamador posts small blind [$0.5].
cuongc posts big blind [$1].
Hero posts dead blind [$0.5].
Hero posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ad Qh ]
tsabi folds.
ahaircut folds.
Zgld folds.
Villain calls [$1].
theDENO calls [$1].
behuston folds.
Hero raises [$5].
AJ7777 folds.
slamador folds.
cuongc folds.
Villain calls [$5].
theDENO folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Villain checks.
Hero bets [$10].
Villain calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Villain checks.
Hero bets [$20].
Villain calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Villain checks.
Hero bets [$40].

Standard? Too aggressive?
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:19 AM
deadmoney98 deadmoney98 is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?

If you wanted to value bet, you probably should have bet less, like 20-30. I do this too, but 2+2 has started to talk me out of it. What worse hands than yours call here? KQ, QJ, that's it. Your opponent's play screams draw, and the clubs missed, as did the OESD (JT).

Basically, you are not getting paid here often and sometimes your opponent will have a very slowly played set/two pair or even a flush he back-doored (maybe JT [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]), all of which come with a check raise that makes you puke. What's that thing they say, WA/WB.
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:21 AM
crosse91 crosse91 is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?

what the hell does wa/wb mean anyways?
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:22 AM
deadmoney98 deadmoney98 is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?

way ahead or way behind.
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:23 AM
imported_anacardo imported_anacardo is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?

Way ahead / way behind. It means what it says; you're up against a hand that either has you crushed or is drawing very slim to beat you, and you're not sure which. Passivity / pot control is often good here, since you're not too worried about free cards.
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Old 08-07-2005, 01:56 AM
stu-unger stu-unger is offline
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Default Re: Value bet this river?

villain checks, hero checks behind.

villain shows nut flush, hero laughs

i dont VB this river as i feel like unless he is a complete donk he isnt calling with a weaker Q. plus i dont want to get c/r'd on this river by a complete donk when i have a hand with some good show down value. PS i think KQ blocks this river.
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