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Facing turn check-raise
This is such a common situation, should I start folding these, you are pretty much ALWAYS behind but the voice in your head always telling you, you need to find out what he could be holding, there is a 2.1% chance he is bluffing, the guy is an unknown.
is JTo a good enough stealing hand? I am totally ignorant to blind stealing methods. Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (3 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds. Turn: (2.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls. River: (6.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 8.50 BB |
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Re: Facing turn check-raise
Raise preflop. 8-Handed is not considered short handed.
I can't call the turn raise without a strong read. |
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Re: Facing turn check-raise
the button and the blinds is considered a short handed pot according to the glossary in the back of SSHE.
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Re: Facing turn check-raise
When it's folded to hero on the button, that's shorthanded enough for me. Definitely raise preflop. In this spot, raise or fold preflop, and JTo is a solid raise.
I might be able to fold that river. Even if the c/r was a semibluff with a flush draw, it got there. Any read? |
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Re: Facing turn check-raise
That is a pretty rotten PF limp, I dont think you will see that advocated anywhere.
I fold to the turn c/r comfortably. If you're going to learn HUSH, get started on blind stealing. Even at full ring you should have some inkling of what to do. |
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Re: Facing turn check-raise
Definitely raise preflop, consider the effect limping has on the rest of the hand and the fact that the SB is almost always going to complete here so you have to beat 2 opponents instead of 1. After raising preflop you'd typically want to bet a flop like this as well even if it missed you.
I would usually fold to the turn c/r here. |
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Re: Facing turn check-raise
As others have said, raise preflop.
I fold to the turn C/R unless I have a read that my opponent could do this without clubs or without an A. Fairly small pot; next hand, please. Tom |
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Re: Facing turn check-raise
[ QUOTE ]
When it's folded to hero on the button, that's shorthanded enough for me. Definitely raise preflop. In this spot, raise or fold preflop, and JTo is a solid raise. I would fold that river. Even if the c/r was a semibluff with a flush draw, it got there. Any read? [/ QUOTE ] fyp, I agree with everything else Wookie said |
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Re: Facing turn check-raise
Raise preflop. Hand will play out differently from there.
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Re: Facing turn check-raise
Your getting 5:1 to call the turn raise.
If a Villian would raise this turn without an ace one time in six, you would break even to call if your in the lead. Lose 5 times: 5 x -1BB = -5BB Win 1 time: 1 x 5BB = 5BB Breakeven If Villian would raise without an ace one out of five times, you might make a small profit to call. Lose 4 times: 4 x -1 = -4BB Win 1 time: 1 x 5 = +5 Small profit: 1BB in 5 hands = .2BB/hand If Villian would raise without an ace one out of four times... Lose 3 times: 3 x -1 = -3BB Win 1 time: 1 x 5 BB = 5BB Decent Profit: 2BB in 4 hands = .5BB/hand So, would Villian raise without an ace at least one in four times? This doesn't account for times Villian has two clubs or some other better hand like a set. It also doesn't account for having to call another bet on the river. I didn't think it through that thoroughly. |
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