QJs first hand at table, makes top pair

kai · #1 11-11-2005, 04:05 AM

Litteraly the first hand at the table **edit** i thought it was the first, maybe it was the secont or something because I see i didnt post ****. But I did data mine it before I sat down and have a VERY limited ammount of hands on BB. He is

%75, %16, 0.7 after only ~35 hands. I know this sample size is pathetic. I would actually like some oppinion, about weather you guys think its better to have such unrelaiable information or filter for more hands on your hud and have no info at all.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Pre-Flop is good given that I have decent position and a decent suited hand right?

Flop: (10.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, BB raises, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

If he knew about pumping flush draws he probably would not have faced the field with two cold. If he knew about it but not really how to do it he might do it like this. But I didnt think it was a flush draw. I had no idea what he was on, but I figured I had to have odds to call, maybe raising was better I dont know.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

I dont know what to do here. I know im not folding, but is raising better?

River: (11.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, MP2 folds.

I wasnt sure how I would have handled getting raised.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

In addition to commenting on my play if I could also get some comments on the question I proposed about filters, that would be great.

irishpint · #2 11-11-2005, 04:19 AM

I 3bet the flop

filters? just be careful, but after 35 hands you do know a few things about a player.

kai · #3 11-11-2005, 04:24 AM

what would you do if raised on the river?

irishpint · #4 11-11-2005, 04:34 AM

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what would you do if raised on the river?

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call getting 13:1 and make a note.

#5 11-11-2005, 09:05 AM

1st--I dont like the open raise, and Im also thinking maybe put in the turn raise.

RED_RAIN · #6 11-11-2005, 03:34 PM

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I dont like the open raise

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Open raise means everyone folds to you and you raise.

RED_RAIN · #7 11-11-2005, 03:36 PM

I wouldn't raise preflop.

On flop I think there is a good chance you are against either JT, or some type of weak Q. I'd 3 bet here.

On turn I'd be weary if we got check/raised, I may even fold the turn as I would then think JT.

I don't see the point in betting the river with the way you played it and got it played against. You don't make money on their likely draw.

Koss · #8 11-11-2005, 03:40 PM

His river check almost always means "I don't have top pair anymore, and I'm worried you just hit your AK" Your QJ should be good here pretty often. Nice bet.

#9 11-11-2005, 03:45 PM

I agree, call & make a note. I also liked the river bet. I know he probably missed his draw, but nonetheless, I think the pot odds at that point are too tempting for him and he'll give you a bet.

#10 11-11-2005, 04:02 PM

I think you played it well.

3 betting the flop is an option against this guy.
If the turn was a blank, I would have raised.