A preflop question. Party 15/30.

Entity · #1 09-24-2005, 12:53 AM

Party $15/30. Full ring. TStoneMBD and I are having a disagreement, as always, but I don't pretend to know the answer to this one. I just know what I'd do. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

An unknown UTG raises. Immediately after us are a 19/1/.5 (5k hands) player, a 22/12/1.8 (700 hands) player, a 30/5/1.3 (3800 hands) player, a 58.4/9/.7 (101 hands) player, and a 27/0/.5 (100 hands) player. The table is generally passive and the rest of the players are unknown.

You have 99.

What's the ideal play here?

Rob

La Brujita · #2 09-24-2005, 12:58 AM

I think its fold, but I think the ev of all three choices can't be that far apart. I would say in order: fold, raise, call.

STLantny · #3 09-24-2005, 01:05 AM

Raise fold call. But my unknown is a little different than your unkown.

JAA · #4 09-24-2005, 01:07 AM

I disagree with everyone so far. I would rank the options as 1.) Reraise, 2.) Call, 3.) Fold, with calling just ahead of folding.

I however do agree that in EV terms this decision is probably failry close.

- Jags

James282 · #5 09-24-2005, 01:13 AM

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I disagree with everyone so far. I would rank the options as 1.) Reraise, 2.) Call, 3.) Fold, with calling just ahead of folding.

I however do agree that in EV terms this decision is probably failry close.

- Jags

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I agree.
-James

JAA · #6 09-24-2005, 08:42 PM

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I disagree with everyone so far. I would rank the options as 1.) Reraise, 2.) Call, 3.) Fold, with calling just ahead of folding.

I however do agree that in EV terms this decision is probably failry close.

- Jags

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I agree.
-James

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Been here for 3 years, and I finally got one right! Maybe there is hope for me yet...

- Jags

#7 09-26-2005, 10:02 AM

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I disagree with everyone so far. I would rank the options as 1.) Reraise, 2.) Call, 3.) Fold, with calling just ahead of folding.

I however do agree that in EV terms this decision is probably failry close.

- Jags

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I agree.
-James

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Me too. And I don't really think it's all that close.

toss · #8 09-24-2005, 08:46 PM

I agree with raise, call, fold. Been playing 15/30 long?

jayheaps · #9 09-24-2005, 09:55 PM

Raise, Fold, call.

JAA · #10 09-25-2005, 12:13 AM

Why do you choose folding over calling in this spot? There are a decent number of flops where you will not mind a preflop rasier betting into you on the flop (>90% of the time) and allowing you raise and thin the field when it comes to your liking. 99 is simply too good to be folding to a preflop raiser, even when hes is an unknown UTG.

- Jags