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Old 07-03-2005, 03:44 PM
Sponger15SB Sponger15SB is offline
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Default Simon Trumper

First watch the video


Then look at the chip counts


Pretty cool.
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Old 07-03-2005, 04:35 PM
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Simon made either the greatest or worst laydown in the history of my poker watching when at the original heads-up poker championships in Vienna, he folded Kings preflop(actually, timed out after ten minutes) to ron rose's reraise all in. It was actually heart-racing TV to watch his facial expression as the tourney director counted down from 10, as soon as the TD said the hand is dead, he rolled over his kings, and Rose showed him KK also....

A bit of a blowhard, and seems only to do well in tourneys, but has some serious game.
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Old 07-03-2005, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: Simon Trumper

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Simon made either the greatest or worst laydown in the history of my poker watching when at the original heads-up poker championships in Vienna, he folded Kings preflop(actually, timed out after ten minutes) to ron rose's reraise all in.

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Can someone explain to how, HU, this could be anything other than terrible?
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Old 07-03-2005, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: Simon Trumper

You'd have to see the actual action and bets/raises to make an opinion on the hand

There are some very rare instances when deep stacked in a HU tournament where you could justify the KK fold.
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Old 07-03-2005, 05:01 PM
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Simon made either the greatest or worst laydown in the history of my poker watching when at the original heads-up poker championships in Vienna, he folded Kings preflop(actually, timed out after ten minutes) to ron rose's reraise all in.



Can someone explain to how, HU, this could be anything other than terrible? [ QUOTE ]
You'd have to see the actual action and bets/raises to make an opinion on the hand

There are some very rare instances when deep stacked in a HU tournament where you could justify the KK fold.

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Like I said, either the most brilliant, or the worst laydown I've ever seen. It's been 2 years since I firstr saw it, and I still don't know which. But yes, the action must be seen to properly deduce, and I don;t know the exacts at the moment.

Either way, i HIGHLY recommend the video, called "world heads-up poker championships-2001" Best poker show I have ever seen, by a long shot. I believe it was Dynasty that first brought it to my attention, but maybe not.
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Old 07-03-2005, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: Simon Trumper

The basic action went Vince (it wasn't Ron Rose, but I don't remember the guy's actual name other than Vince and it wasn't VP or Burgio) raised. Trumper reraised, Vince moved all in. Trumper gave it all the time then timed out, showing the kings. Vince stupidly also showed kings. Trumper's basic read was that the guy had either AA or KK only based on how Vince was playing.

Vince went on to win anyways, despite this laydown.

Had I been Vince, I would have shown one king.
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Old 07-03-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: Simon Trumper

I'm guessing you werent actually referring the 'interview' where the cardplayer guy is hitting on the female dealer... What was it?
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:00 PM
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http://video.cardplayer.com:8080/vid.../070205_04.wmv
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Old 07-03-2005, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Simon Trumper

How is that a horrible laydown? Depending on how much dead money is already in the pot, I think it's a decent laydown given his read. He had him on either Aces or Kings only. Since he has already has Kings, Aces is more likely. Either you chop a tiny pot or lose the whole thing. If he felt he could win later on, why not fold? It's not like Hellmuth mucking Queens twice in a row.
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Old 07-04-2005, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: Simon Trumper

I´m not close to Simon in any way, but whenever I´ve met and talked to him he seemed to be a very nice guy. He had a great run at the beginning of this millenium, winning several major tournaments in europe. But then he hit a long losing period, where he lost a lot of money. For the last 6 months or so he seems to have recovered though.

Very honest article from Simon about his swings in tournament poker

I´d be happy if he could win the PLO event. Tough final table thoug.

BTW: I just recently bought a new notebook, and for some reason I can´t really see anything in these cardplayer videos. It´s hard to describe, the sound is perfect, but the picture looks like sort of an mixture of an Andy Wahrhol painting and an animated film. Other videos work just perfectly. Anyone else has this problem or a solution?

Martin Aigner
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