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Old 10-31-2005, 06:58 AM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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Default 15/30 68s

Good 15/30 game. Loose/aggressive SB, bakku is UTG, cold callers are loose/passive.

Preflop: I am BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
bakku raises UTG, three cold callers, the SB calls and I call.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Checked around.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB bets, I
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:07 AM
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I'd bet the flop. Am I crazy?
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:14 AM
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Am I crazy?

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I'm not sure, but I'm not betting this flop. You think bakku will raise with overs?
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:29 AM
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Hopefully. It would almost be like collusion.
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:30 AM
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Hopefully. It would almost be like collusion.

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Would you raise the flop with overs?
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:42 AM
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Depends on how likely it is that the coldcallers will fold plus the prospects of getting a free card. Pot is getting big so that might make it a raise. Good chance I'm wrong though.
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:56 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 68s

Isn't this turn a pretty easy raise? Double gutter + pair in a now 7 bb pot.

As for the flop, i don't think bakku will ever raise overs here and very likely will check them. Thus, even though they're passive, one of the ccers might bet and u can raise. Or c/c depending on how many b/t u and flop bettor.
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Old 10-31-2005, 08:12 AM
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I raise this unless you think the flop was a failed C/R attempt by Bakku. I think that is unlikely given the CC'ers are passive he wouldn't risk it. Raising kills Bakku's and others odds to draw to overs. If SB was passive i'd be a little hesitant but being aggressive you still have a good chance of being ahead. Option two is fold because just calling and having the passives come along would be bad.
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Old 10-31-2005, 08:22 AM
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Good 15/30 game. Loose/aggressive SB, bakku is UTG, cold callers are loose/passive.

Preflop: I am BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
bakku raises UTG, three cold callers, the SB calls and I call.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Checked around.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB bets, I

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i had A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], i think i should have bet the flop? i'm not sure
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:17 AM
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Good 15/30 game. Loose/aggressive SB, bakku is UTG, cold callers are loose/passive.

Preflop: I am BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
bakku raises UTG, three cold callers, the SB calls and I call.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Checked around.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB bets, I

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i had A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], i think i should have bet the flop? i'm not sure

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Zero folding equity, zero chance of being ahead. I wouldn't even consider betting this flop. Am I missing something?
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