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Old 09-03-2005, 11:40 AM
Poldi Poldi is offline
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Default 5/10 Godzilla vs King Kong

UTG is 43/8/1

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Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (15 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (18.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB

Concerns about the turn raise and rivercall.
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Old 09-03-2005, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Godzilla vs King Kong

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UTG is 43/8/1

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When UTG caps the flop, what range do you put him on to warrant raising the turn?

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Old 09-03-2005, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Godzilla vs King Kong

I can probably agree with the flop 3-bet here but once utg caps the flop I think a turn raise is spewing even with your draw. I call the turn and make a crying call on the river.
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Old 09-03-2005, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Godzilla vs King Kong

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I can probably agree with the flop 3-bet here but once utg caps the flop I think a turn raise is spewing even with your draw. I call the turn and make a crying call on the river

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Yes.

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Old 09-03-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Godzilla vs King Kong

You are a draw pumper, aka chip spewer.

if you are going to raise that turn (why?) then you really cannot call the river UI. Much better variation would be to call down and hope UTG is also pumping QJ or something. But its more likely UTG got your licked already or turned the flush. Like my good buddy __1__ said, think about the range of villain's hand before you start stomping on that raise button.
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Godzilla vs King Kong

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UTG is 43/8/1

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When UTG caps the flop, what range do you put him on to warrant raising the turn?

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A set is pretty unlikely since he will have raised most of them preflop (maybe not TT). He may have the straight but I think his most likely holding is 2pair (KQ,KT,QT). I ran it through PokerStove and found out the turn raise really is spewing. At the table I saw my OESD, flush draw + top pair and thought I really gotta push this but you are right, it was plain spewing.
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