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Old 06-16-2005, 12:04 AM
sk_man sk_man is offline
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Default I try buff raising for the first time

$2/$4, Pacific Poker

I don't have a great read on BB, honestly, because I haven't been paying enough attention. He seems to play a few too many hands and falls on the passive side, but I think he's a thinking player.

Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 handed)
1 call, Hero raises, 4 fold, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 6 SB, 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 handed)
BB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, BB folds.

The bluff raise worked nicely this time, but I wasn't really sure what my next move would have been. If he called I think I bet on the turn, and that's the last bet I put into this pot.

thoughts?
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:06 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: I try buff raising for the first time

Thats not a bluff, you probably have the best hand.
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:21 AM
sk_man sk_man is offline
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Default Re: I try buff raising for the first time

He was decently passive from what I remember, so I was giving him credit for the K. Wouldn't a smaller pair have odds to call one bet and see the turn card?
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:27 AM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Default Re: I try buff raising for the first time

1) your opponents won't play perfectly, or even well
2) you usually have best hand here
3) BB is probably bluffing, or betting a hand like Q6.

Giving an opponent "credit" for top pair because he bets into you is silly and will cost you many pots.
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: I try buff raising for the first time

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He was decently passive from what I remember, so I was giving him credit for the K.

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If this is your thought process, then I hate the raise, since a typical "passive" player here will always bring this to showdown, especially heads-up. Only a super scared weak-tightie would ever think of folding a king here.
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: I try buff raising for the first time

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He was decently passive from what I remember, so I was giving him credit for the K.

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If this is your thought process, then I hate the raise, since a typical "passive" player here will always bring this to showdown, especially heads-up. Only a super scared weak-tightie would ever think of folding a king here.

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My thoughts exactly. Perfect example of doing the right thing for the wrong reason.
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: I try buff raising for the first time

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Giving an opponent "credit" for top pair because he bets into you is silly and will cost you many pots.

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Not to mention the fact if he does have the king he's not going to fold.
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: I try buff raising for the first time

I think if you raise in the nude you'll scare your opponents off and can take their chips.
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Old 06-16-2005, 03:26 AM
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Default I need some explanation/help to understand this one...

I would say the thought process is good (thinking he has a K) and the raise is bad. Other way around.

I think I'm probably wrong too [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img], but I don't understand why. Can you explain why this is a good raise, and what Hero *should* be thinking here?
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:22 AM
sk_man sk_man is offline
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Default Re: I try buff raising for the first time

Questoin: If you were BB on this flop, what range of hands are you putting Hero on? I was playing pretty tight pre-flop and a little passive (one of my many problems).
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