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Old 07-26-2005, 03:14 PM
gamblore99 gamblore99 is offline
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Default question about guns

For firearms that use the same ammunition, what characteristics do they vary in? I would imagine accuracy, but besides that what else? Like between a good gun and a bad gun that use the same bullets what would you expect to be better. What about for two guns of the same price, and same ammunition?
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Old 07-26-2005, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: question about guns




i have no idea what you're asking.
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Old 07-26-2005, 03:30 PM
Patrick del Poker Grande Patrick del Poker Grande is offline
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There's some good info here.
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Old 07-26-2005, 03:31 PM
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beat me to it.
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:06 PM
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Shoot first, ask questions later.
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: question about guns

well there are lots of firearms manufacturers....they pretty much all make guns that shoot the same caliber ammunition, but obviously the guns each manufacturer makes is different. Variations between models made by different manufacturers could be better accuracy on one, more reliable, etc. Price is usually a semi-decent starting point but not always. Sometimes a gun is more expensive because it is pretty or has custom work done to make it look better, but the functionality is often the same.
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:13 PM
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well there are lots of firearms manufacturers....they pretty much all make guns that shoot the same caliber ammunition, but obviously the guns each manufacturer makes is different. Variations between models made by different manufacturers could be better accuracy on one, more reliable, etc. Price is usually a semi-decent starting point but not always. Sometimes a gun is more expensive because it is pretty or has custom work done to make it look better, but the functionality is often the same.

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Also to add to this post, sometimes guns are priced higher that have better "action." For instance, a good pistol will fire and eject a shell without much recoil, where as you can get a cheap one that will kick back more making it harder to hit your target.
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Old 07-26-2005, 05:57 PM
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For instance, a good pistol will fire and eject a shell without much recoil, where as you can get a cheap one that will kick back more making it harder to hit your target.

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You’ve never actually fired a gun have you?

This is wrong on so many levels but…

Physics is physics – the same cartridge (say a 230 grain 45 auto hardball round) has the same recoil every time regardless of the gun used. (remember “for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction”?)

There is a huge difference between true recoil and felt recoil. The factors that affect felt recoil are almost too many to mention but here’s a few:

Weight of the gun
Distance that the barrel is over the center of gravity
Weight distribution of the gun
Action function (gas, recoil, manual)
Weight of moving parts
Shooter flinch (big one)

And on and on and on……..
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Old 07-26-2005, 06:08 PM
Patrick del Poker Grande Patrick del Poker Grande is offline
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For instance, a good pistol will fire and eject a shell without much recoil, where as you can get a cheap one that will kick back more making it harder to hit your target.

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You’ve never actually fired a gun have you?

This is wrong on so many levels but…

Physics is physics – the same cartridge (say a 230 grain 45 auto hardball round) has the same recoil every time regardless of the gun used. (remember “for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction”?)

There is a huge difference between true recoil and felt recoil. The factors that affect felt recoil are almost too many to mention but here’s a few:

Weight of the gun
Distance that the barrel is over the center of gravity
Weight distribution of the gun
Action function (gas, recoil, manual)
Weight of moving parts
Shooter flinch (big one)

And on and on and on……..

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This is the biggest nit post I've ever seen. You've just explained why his statement is true, you jackass, as he was clearly talking about "felt" recoil.
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Old 07-26-2005, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: question about guns

Accuracy, reliability, human engineering, overall quality of manufacturing and materials used to build it.

Some inexpensive guns are more accurate than more expensive guns because of their process of manufacture. For example, Savage rifles are famous for their out of the box accuracy, and they are less expensive than equivalent Winchesters or Remingtons. Also, due to CNC machining, we have some of the best guns ever made at reasonable prices. Kimbers are the best 1911's you can buy, and they are not expensive compared to other 1911's. A real bargain actually.

For those who pay big bucks, they tend to get custom work on their firearms that can be aesthetic or geared towards better performance.
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