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Old 09-02-2005, 05:26 PM
bluefeet bluefeet is offline
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Default L4 - push over either of these UTG raises, w/ 12-11bb\'s?

$25+2 turbo - both occurred within a few hands.

Not much help w/ the reads, just looking to get a feel for when you reach that point where you're tempted to gamble..

-- first time bigstack has asserted himself, got rich with a couple big hands --
Seat 1: (2325 in chips)
Seat 2: (1555 in chips)
Seat 3: (1245 in chips)
Seat 7: (3860 in chips)
Seat 8: (3290 in chips)
<font color="blue">bluefeet (1225 in chips) </font>
Seat 2: posts small blind 50
Seat 3: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bluefeet [Ac Qs]
Seat 7: raises 300 to 400
1 fold
bluefeet ??

-- UTG here has been a little looser, involved in many hands --
Seat 1: (2325 in chips)
Seat 2: (1205 in chips)
Seat 3: (1095 in chips)
Seat 7: (7650 in chips)
<font color="blue">bluefeet (1225 in chips) </font>
Seat 7: posts small blind 50
bluefeet: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bluefeet [9d 9h]
Seat 1: raises 200 to 300
3 folds
bluefeet ??
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Old 09-02-2005, 05:35 PM
vinyard vinyard is offline
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Default Re: L4 - push over either of these UTG raises, w/ 12-11bb\'s?

I fold the first and push back with the second.

I would be attempted to Stop N Go the second but I have a case of serious FPS these days.
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Old 09-02-2005, 05:51 PM
ZeroPointMachine ZeroPointMachine is offline
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Default Re: L4 - push over either of these UTG raises, w/ 12-11bb\'s?

I'm pushing both of these unless I have a strong read on the raiser.

Not much FE in the first one, but I've been surprised before. Your not desperate, but you are the short stack.

The second hand I would have more respect for the raise into the big stacks blind. But given your read that he's pretty loose I would fire away.

Not sure it's the optimal play.

I have pretty high 5th and 6th numbers, but I think they are offset by alot more 1st and 2nd than 3rd and 4ths
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:11 PM
cha59 cha59 is offline
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Default Re: L4 - push over either of these UTG raises, w/ 12-11bb\'s?

I play the 16's at Stars so I dont know exactly what the 27's are like there, but I assume they're somewhat similar.

I probably push the first one. If he was tight earlier, the big stack could be loosening up here trying to steal because the blinds have gone up and are worth stealing now. Also he has more chips to push people around with.

I push the second one for sure if UTG has been loose.

Some of the time if my table image has been loose I fold these, but not often.
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