AJ turn decision

pokerOpus · #1 06-28-2005, 04:55 AM

Button is a 75/25 and rather aggresive. SB is 75/7 and passive postflop.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (7 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero ?

I was confused about what to do here after getting raised and having the SB cold call. I hit one of my outs although it was not the one I wanted to see. Whats my play here?

admiralfluff · #2 06-28-2005, 05:03 AM

I would bet/call. From your descriptions it sounds like both of them could really have anything at this point.

lilkunta2 · #3 06-28-2005, 05:09 AM

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I would bet/call. From your descriptions it sounds like both of them could really have anything at this point.

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poker opus i think this guy is totally wrong whoever posted thatthat sounds like the worst thing to do. check fold the turn 100% for the reasons i mentioned earlier. but remember,,, folding the flop to a raise was the best idea. remember, he cold called your raise before the flop AND raised you on the flop when a queen came out. its screaming somehting like KQ or QJ whatever it is, it's definalty a queen, you can't win unless you get more lucky than the pot is giving you so fold FOLD

don't take that guys advice.

also what do these nuymbers mean???
Button is a 75/25 and rather aggresive. SB is 75/7 and passive postflop.?????????

admiralfluff · #4 06-28-2005, 05:20 AM

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I would bet/call. From your descriptions it sounds like both of them could really have anything at this point.

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poker opus i think this guy is totally wrong whoever posted thatthat sounds like the worst thing to do. check fold the turn 100% for the reasons i mentioned earlier. but remember,,, folding the flop to a raise was the best idea. remember, he cold called your raise before the flop AND raised you on the flop when a queen came out. its screaming somehting like KQ or QJ whatever it is, it's definalty a queen, you can't win unless you get more lucky than the pot is giving you so fold FOLD

don't take that guys advice.

also what do these nuymbers mean???
Button is a 75/25 and rather aggresive. SB is 75/7 and passive postflop.?????????

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If this is a joke it's [censored] hilarious.

lilkunta2 · #5 06-28-2005, 12:39 PM

sorry admiral it's not a [censored] joke im just trying to give some good advice and PROTECT PEOPLE FROM TAKING BAD ADVICE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU GAVE HIM, BAD ADVICE. your thinking is totally wrong and makes no sense.

QTip · #6 06-28-2005, 12:46 PM

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sorry admiral it's not a [censored] joke im just trying to give some good advice and PROTECT PEOPLE FROM TAKING BAD ADVICE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU GAVE HIM, BAD ADVICE. your thinking is totally wrong and makes no sense.

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Does this mean you did end up beating a fat girl up a hill?

pokerOpus · #7 06-28-2005, 05:27 AM

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also what do these nuymbers mean???
Button is a 75/25 and rather aggresive. SB is 75/7 and passive postflop.?????????

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The first number means these two douchebags play 75% of their hands preflop. The second number is the %age that they raise preflop.

I disagree with your statement that I will only be raised by a queen given the buttons playing style. He could have an 8, a 3, a pocket pair or just be bluffing.

lilkunta2 · #8 06-28-2005, 05:04 AM

really the play here is to check and fold to a bet. there is no way on God's green earth your hand is good right now. He wouldn't raise you on the flop WITHOUT AT LEAST A QUEEN so you hitting your jack is only cause for you to lose more money. really the play was to fold on the flop when you got raised i think, saves alot of heartache and money, and you are really only drawing to 3 outs (the aces) so pot odds wern't even there to call the raise. but what the [censored] do i know i can't beat a fat girl up a hill

mdeck · #9 06-28-2005, 12:54 PM

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really the play here is to check and fold to a bet. there is no way on God's green earth your hand is good right now. He wouldn't raise you on the flop WITHOUT AT LEAST A QUEEN so you hitting your jack is only cause for you to lose more money. really the play was to fold on the flop when you got raised i think, saves alot of heartache and money, and you are really only drawing to 3 outs (the aces) so pot odds wern't even there to call the raise. but what the [censored] do i know i can't beat a fat girl up a hill

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This is horrid, weak-tight advice. A LAG in this situation would be raising anything from top set to Ace-High. Odds are he picked up a draw or is raising bottom/mid pair.

I check/call the turn here. The times he has a queen are much less than the times he will have a smaller pair.

QTip · #10 06-28-2005, 12:58 PM

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A LAG in this situation would be raising anything from top set to 4 -High

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