a balancing question - leading into the pfr

[bugstud]

so we lead with sets, nut flush draws/combo draws. What else do you lead here to balance it?

[LethalRose]

depends on the PFR. some PFR's hate it when you take impetus. Against a PFR I know will fold the flop 80%+ of the time they miss I'll lead into them with anything.

if i know they are going to be aggressive, im leading the flop hoping to get it all in.

[bugstud]

bump?

[ansky451]

Its really not something you can determine in a vacuum. stack sizes, reads, stage in the tournament, and the relative strength of your hand are all needed information to determine when to lead, when to check raise.

[Exitonly]

yep i'm with ansky.. it's not a universal thing.. but i'd add two pair to your list.. so it's basically all hands that i wouldn't regret if i went broke with. If they come over the top i'll be fine calling them.

[2005]

I nearly always lead with hands like bottom 2 or top and bottom

[Jason Strasser]

Well.

Air is a place to start. I can lead with absolutely nothing and I adjust how much I do that so that I get a leading frequency that feels right for me.

Draws/big hands are great too. I tend to not lead a hand like top pair versus most, unless I probably intend to continue if I get raised.

-Jason

[bugstud]

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Well.

Air is a place to start. I can lead with absolutely nothing and I adjust how much I do that so that I get a leading frequency that feels right for me.

Draws/big hands are great too. I tend to not lead a hand like top pair versus most, unless I probably intend to continue if I get raised.

-Jason

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Thanks, these are a little more what I was looking for.

well essentially I was always leading, if I chose to lead, with those things. So my only line was lead/3bet if correct or call and whatnot. I kinda was wondering just how often you lead with hands that don't want action versus the big hands where all the money wants to get in. As much as I hate to say it this is mostly in prep for aruba because I imagine some of them will be paying attention to the hands and whatnot. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Maybe I'll try a heavy-leading MTT and see what happens?

[J_V]

The best place to start is by leading all the time to get a feel for how often you should be doing it with.

It's hard to actually put this into practice, since situations are unique, but lead with dust for a while and if you start winning pots, increase it. If you never steal a pot, you know what to do [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].


I want to note, that I have toyed with the idea of being a "flop leader" in all types of games, limits, and scenarios and found it very difficult to do. Ideally, it is your cheapest bluff and probably your most effective weapon - however, I've only seen one Heads up limit holdem player, that was an expert and someone that rarely c/r the flop.

[J_V]

Yeah? why those hand and not top two?