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Old 09-03-2005, 03:20 AM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default One more vs 2+2er, live 3/6

Live good 3/6, 2+2er tehmatt is now on my left when this hand comes up. 2 limpers and I limp Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the CO, tehmatt raises the button (damn), BB calls, limpers call, I call. 5 to the flop for ~11 sb.

Reads: none really but everyone sucks except tehmatt who is tight and straightforward.

Flop is A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] checked to me and I bet, tehmatt says "are you bluffing?" and calls, awful EP calls, awful MP calls. 4 to the turn.

Turn is Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] checked to me, I check, tehmatt pauses and bets, EP folds, MP calls, I checkraise, tehmatt looks at me funny and calls, MP folds.

River is 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I bet, tehmatt raises, I say "nice hand" and pay off.

Who likes my flop bet? What about the turn checkraise? What range of hands do you put tehmatt on on the flop and turn? What about on the river? Should I 3 bet? Should I fold?

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Old 09-03-2005, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: One more vs 2+2er, live 3/6

The flop bet is fine if you're willing to fold to a raise or call/fold turn UI to tehmatt's raise. Given your reads he's the one your most worried about here.

The turn c/r is good, the only hands he's beating you here with are AA or AQ and if he's got those he's slowplaying for the overcalls. His PFR, flop call and turn bet range is much larger than only these two hands.

The river raise is now scary as he probably wouldn't raise a hand which doesn't beat at least one Q. You said he's straightforward but with a turned full house most straightforward people would have gone to war on the turn so he may actually be tricky.
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Old 09-03-2005, 03:48 AM
LoaferGee12 LoaferGee12 is offline
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Default Re: One more vs 2+2er, live 3/6

I am soo confused as to why he's calling the turn and raising the river [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Am I missing something??

I honestly can't think of 1 realistic hand I'd make this play with here.
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:06 AM
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Default Re: One more vs 2+2er, live 3/6

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I am soo confused as to why he's calling the turn and raising the river [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Am I missing something??

I honestly can't think of 1 realistic hand I'd make this play with here.

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AA or AQ?
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:12 AM
Vote4Pedro Vote4Pedro is offline
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Default Re: One more vs 2+2er, live 3/6

he knows that we know that he knows
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Old 09-03-2005, 04:19 AM
Hojglad Hojglad is offline
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Default Re: One more vs 2+2er, live 3/6

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he turn c/r is good, the only hands he's beating you here with are AA or AQ

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Last time I checked, KQ and QJs are ahead here, also. Think about what hands you would play the way I did against a freaking-monkey LAG like DeathDonkey.
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Old 09-03-2005, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: One more vs 2+2er, live 3/6

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Flop is A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] checked to me and I bet, tehmatt says "are you bluffing?"

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He so has AA or AQ!! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
But seriously for 1 bet, call the river.
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Old 09-03-2005, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: One more vs 2+2er, live 3/6

I like your flop bet and turn check raise.

I put Tehmatt's range of hands on the flop and turn at AA,KK,AK-AT,KQ and QJs.

On the river, I think Tehmatt has either AA,AQ or KQ. I would call Tehmatt's river raise.
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Old 09-03-2005, 02:56 PM
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I am soo confused as to why he's calling the turn and raising the river [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Am I missing something??

I honestly can't think of 1 realistic hand I'd make this play with here.

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AA or AQ?

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Both of these have no reason not to 3-bet the turn?
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Old 09-03-2005, 02:56 PM
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he knows that we know that he knows

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Damn metagames.
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