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Old 06-20-2005, 12:07 AM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
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Default Am I a donk?

***** Hand History for Game 2234022012 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:13247574 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Monday, June 20, 00:02:33 EDT 2005
Table Table 11492 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: pizzzaking ( $950 )
Seat 1: sepher28 ( $875 )
Seat 5: thejaxxxx ( $740 )
Seat 10: MsKonduct ( $745 )
Seat 4: DoggWilly ( $775 )
Seat 9: ericp224 ( $945 )
Seat 8: decoy69 ( $860 )
Seat 2: dantmann ( $485 )
Seat 3: playnevada ( $825 )
Seat 7: Steelraider8 ( $800 )
Trny:13247574 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to sepher28 [ 6d 6c ]
Steelraider8 folds.
pizzzaking: you should play me on a private table 10/20/ no limit big mouth
decoy69 folds.
ericp224 folds.
MsKonduct folds.
sepher28 calls [15].
dantmann calls [15].
playnevada folds.
DoggWilly folds.
thejaxxxx calls [5].
pizzzaking checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, 3s, 5s ]
thejaxxxx checks.
>You have options at Table 11873 Table!.
pizzzaking checks.
decoy69: oh..we can do that ..boy
sepher28 bets [80].
dantmann raises [160].
thejaxxxx folds.
pizzzaking folds.
sepher28 calls [80].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
sepher28 checks.
dantmann is all-In [310]
sepher28 calls [310].
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:14 AM
stupidsucker stupidsucker is offline
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Default Re: Am I a donk?

Hmm, perhaps my perception is off because I am seeing this in HH form.

The worst thing you did IMO is limp in with 66. I often push this flop in your position after check check. I often get knocked out this way. I dont think you can fold vs the small stack like that.

In short, this is a hard hand to play and by no means makes you a donk.
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:17 AM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
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Default Re: Am I a donk?

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Hmm, perhaps my perception is off because I am seeing this in HH form.

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If you mean cause I didn't use the converter... we put a halt to converter usage a while back until it is fixed. No one really uses it that much anymore that posts lots of HHs.
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:18 AM
stupidsucker stupidsucker is offline
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Default Re: Am I a donk?

no I meant opposed to being in game. In game I dont think, I just act.
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:20 AM
elonkra elonkra is offline
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Default Re: Am I a donk?

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The worst thing you did IMO is limp in with 66.


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Are you saying you mechanically fold 66 from MP in an unentered pot when the BB is t15? With the blinds this small, I limp-fold all day w/these cards in the 5s I play.
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:27 AM
wiggs73 wiggs73 is offline
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Default Re: Am I a donk?

I really don't have a problem with this hand... I would consider folding to his push if I had some sort of read on him and *knew* he had a flush. However, I'm assuming no reads, and I think villain plays a small over pair, 2 pair, A6 and the likes this way.
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:28 AM
stupidsucker stupidsucker is offline
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Default Re: Am I a donk?

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The worst thing you did IMO is limp in with 66.


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Are you saying you mechanically fold 66 from MP in an unentered pot when the BB is t15? With the blinds this small, I limp-fold all day w/these cards in the 5s I play.

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Do you want to know how I would play 66 or how I think others should play it?

I would raise, but only because I feel I have the experience to play it properly post flop. I would prefer fold it preflop then I would limp with it. Depends a lot on how many tables are running at the time, and if I have any other hands going. If I dont have the mental space in my brain to play 66 properly post flop then I fold it.(meaning I have a few other tables going with live hands)

I will officaly retract my statement. I fully expect most to feel limping with 66 here the proper move. I do not, but I dont have the smarts to explain why. Perhaps I am wrong, but just try to stop me.
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:29 AM
stupidsucker stupidsucker is offline
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Default Re: Am I a donk?

If he has TT then you are both Donks by default!!!!

By the way... Kudos for not posting results.
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:34 AM
wiggs73 wiggs73 is offline
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Default Re: Am I a donk?

I really see no reason to fold this pre-flop. If you can see a flop for cheap early with any PP, I think it's usually a good idea to. Just play it for set value. I like raising less than folding or calling because I think if you get your raise called, you'll rarely be any less than a coin-flip favorite. Conversly, by limping, you don't mind this since you are playing for set value and stand to gain more chips via better hands coming in to see a flop (assuming you hit your set. Otherwise, you can get out of the hand for cheap). I think it's too early for trying any fancy post-flop play with a hand this weak. You'll be better off just playing it for set value via limping / calling a small raise pre-flop, IMO.
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: Am I a donk?

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If you can see a flop for cheap early with any PP, I think it's usually a good idea to. Just play it for set value.

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I am going to yield because I won't be able to convince you otherwise, and I am sure you will recieve more support then I will.

I have been in a atrocious mood today, and I think I am trying to pick a fight. To explain myself would take several paragraphs and I believe the post would be - EV in the long run for myself.

In short

I am the donk!
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