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Clueless with JQsuited at Absolute 3/6 full table
This is my first post...and this was a very oddly played hand. The game was very loose, with a big fish playing on tilt in MP. I have no info on anyone else as of yet.
Preflop: I limp in UTG + 1 with J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Villain #1 raises out of UTG + 2, Fish cold calls in MP, Villain #2 cold calls in MP + 1, SB folds, and BB calls, I call. Flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (10.33 SB) BB bets out, I raise, Villain #1 3bets, Fish cold calls, Villain #2 folds, BB caps...what now? There are now 11.16 BB in the pot. |
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Re: Clueless with JQsuited at Absolute 3/6 full table
Getting 11:1 I think you can peel. Check/fold the turn UI. If you do improve, still play cautiously.
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Re: Clueless with JQsuited at Absolute 3/6 full table
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Getting 11:1 I think you can peel. Check/fold the turn UI. If you do improve, still play cautiously. [/ QUOTE ] That's exactly what I was thinking (even though not many cards would improve me.) So I called and so did the remaining 2 players after me, leaving 13.16 BB in the pot. Turn came 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Board now reads 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] BB leads out. Villain #1 behind me has shown a lot of aggression and BB has shown a lot of strength on the flop (thus the possibility of another 3bet or cap). What NOW? |
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Re: Clueless with JQsuited at Absolute 3/6 full table
Great card, because it makes your decision easy: fold. You have top pair, but only a decent kicker in a hand where a lot of people have shown serious interest. It's very likely KK/AA is against you, if not AQ/KQ. QJ is a payoff hand. The only reason you played it in the first place in EP is because it was suited. Don't fall in love with it. QJ is a payoff hand. If the results in this case show that you folded the best hand, it's an anomaly. The correct play is to fold the turn.
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Re: Clueless with JQsuited at Absolute 3/6 full table
Newbie speculation, but I'd guess you're at least behind another queen with a better kicker. Yet I would call the flop but fold UI on the turn simply because I hate betting and folding on the same round.
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Re: Clueless with JQsuited at Absolute 3/6 full table
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I hate betting and folding on the same round. [/ QUOTE ] You should get over this. It's a leak if you never bet/fold on the same street. |
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Re: Clueless with JQsuited at Absolute 3/6 full table
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Newbie speculation, but I'd guess you're at least behind another queen with a better kicker. Yet I would call the flop but fold UI on the turn simply because I hate betting and folding on the same round. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. My thoughts were that I was behind AA/KK/AQ/KQ for villain #1 and BB was representing a set or queen with better kicker. I figured that it was 50/50 as to whether I should lay it down on the flop or peel. I opted for the peel and folded the turn because of all the aggression. |
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Re: Clueless with JQsuited at Absolute 3/6 full table
With the board reading: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (13.16 BB)
BB led out and bet, I folded, and much to my chagrin Villain #1 only called, and the Fish called his remaining 1.70 dollars. River came 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (approximately 15.5 BB) BB checks, Villain #1 checks. BB shows Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Villain #1 mucks. Fish mucks. BB wins pot. I pat myself on the back for making the right play, but cry for giving opponents so much credit [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. I guess the BB played the pot correctly, especially on the turn, but I don't quite understand Villain #1's flop play...and the cap by BB definitely threw me off. I really had no worries about the fish. |
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Re: Clueless with JQsuited at Absolute 3/6 full table
Mark this play down in your notes. Very surprising action from an unknown, but now it is known, so you should know it.
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Re: Clueless with JQsuited at Absolute 3/6 full table
You just fold here, there is very little chance you're ahead here and it's going to very expensive if you're not. Fold and move on.
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