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Old 10-09-2005, 12:48 AM
pryor15 pryor15 is offline
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Default the good old check-raise semi-bluff

villain is 22/6.6/1.8 over 80ish hands

the 3-bet on the flop tells me i'm likely behind (or facing a good draw), so when do i concede the hand and move on?

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Preflop: is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] .
[color=#666666]5 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]MP3 raises</font>, [color=#666666]3 folds</font>, pryor15 calls.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
pryor15 checks, [color=#CC3333]MP3 bets</font>, [color=#CC3333]pryor15 raises</font>, [color=#CC3333]MP3 3-bets</font>, pryor15 calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
pryor15 checks, [color=#CC3333]MP3 bets</font>, pryor15 calls.

River: (6.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
pryor15 checks, [color=#CC3333]MP3 bets</font>, pryor15 calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB
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Old 10-09-2005, 12:52 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: the good old check-raise semi-bluff

explain to me where this check raise semibluff is?

but really.............. eh......... fold the river? that's the only spot.
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Old 10-09-2005, 01:00 AM
pryor15 pryor15 is offline
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Default Re: the good old check-raise semi-bluff

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explain to me where this check raise semibluff is?

but really.............. eh......... fold the river? that's the only spot.

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on the flop. i'm calling it a semi-bluff, b/c we're not sure if we're ahead or not, but we'd like our opponent to think we are.

hell, it's all semantics anyway.
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Old 10-09-2005, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: the good old check-raise semi-bluff

Thats not really a semi-bluff raise. If your read tells you that his flop 3 bet means you're behind, then fold the turn. Some villians might raise two big diamonds here but IMO it is much more likely that he has an overpair. Basically if you are folding anywhere it has to be the turn.
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Old 10-09-2005, 01:10 AM
DCWildcat DCWildcat is offline
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Default Re: the good old check-raise semi-bluff

Looks fine to me...i have a feeling you were overpair'd
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Old 10-09-2005, 02:16 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: the good old check-raise semi-bluff

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explain to me where this check raise semibluff is?

but really.............. eh......... fold the river? that's the only spot.

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on the flop. i'm calling it a semi-bluff, b/c we're not sure if we're ahead or not, but we'd like our opponent to think we are.

hell, it's all semantics anyway.

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aybe you're just using a different definition than the rest of us. Semi-bluff is not a bet where you don't know where you stand.

If your check-raise is called, your hand figures to be the best hand at the moment. This is very much a value check-raise because *most* of the time he has overcards and is very often drawing to 3 outs because you have him reverse dominated.
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