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Old 11-10-2005, 06:56 PM
ggbman ggbman is offline
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Default Interesting turn play with A5s

The SB here is a regular, but is overaggressive preflop and has poor hand selection. The BB is a much more solid all around reg. The original flop call was a misclick, the second time around it was not. Obviously i just about make it to the turn, but thats not what is interesting here. On the flop, i felt the c/r from the SB would be a draw a lot of the time, something like T8 or Q-T specifically.


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Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

River: (12.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

I raised the turn hoping to represent the Jack and knock the BB off his bigger ace. I intend to call a donk on any non 7, Q, or K river. If he checks i check behind. What do we think?
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Old 11-10-2005, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Interesting turn play with A5s

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I raised the turn hoping to represent the Jack and knock the BB off his bigger ace. I intend to call a donk on any non 7, Q, or K river. If he checks i check behind. What do we think?

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Sounds good, but do you really think you can fold out a bigger ace? I like everything else.
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Old 11-10-2005, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: Interesting turn play with A5s

I think you are behind here often enough, along with the fact that BB often does not fold his ace, that you should just call down.
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Old 11-10-2005, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: Interesting turn play with A5s

Care to explain the flop call (acting immediately after BB's bet)?

Rob
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Old 11-10-2005, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: Interesting turn play with A5s

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Care to explain the flop call (acting immediately after BB's bet)?

Rob

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The original flop call was a misclick


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The second call I think is wrong though. He is getting 14:1, but he only has 1.5 outs from the backdoor nut flush draw, and at best 1.5 outs from the ace. More then likely even if he hits the ace he is in trouble, and I don't think he has the odds here.
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Old 11-10-2005, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Interesting turn play with A5s

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Care to explain the flop call (acting immediately after BB's bet)?

Rob

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Yeah it was a misclick, i think i mentioned it in the OP.
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Old 11-10-2005, 07:53 PM
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Care to explain the flop call (acting immediately after BB's bet)?

Rob

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Yeah it was a misclick, i think i mentioned it in the OP.

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Yeah you did, I just suck at reading.
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: Interesting turn play with A5s

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I raised the turn hoping to represent the Jack and knock the BB off his bigger ace. I intend to call a donk on any non 7, Q, or K river. If he checks i check behind. What do we think?

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Sounds good, but do you really think you can fold out a bigger ace? I like everything else.

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I really think that with the line i took, it would be very difficult for the BB to put me on anything other than a jack here.
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: Interesting turn play with A5s

i think there's no other way to play it (besides initial flop call). NH.
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: Interesting turn play with A5s

His river donk doesn't make much sense to me. Did he have a busted draw?
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