Telling Them What You Have

[tj00]

Party 2/4

I get dealt AA in the SB and 3 bet a raise. It gets capped pre-flop, I turn a set and win the hand. Very next hand I get black aces on the button. As the the steady stream of limpers is comming around I can't resist and type in "got AA again", and then raise. EP limper types "no way", and limp re-raises, I cap it. Flop comes rags, they check to me, and all call my bet. Turn comes ace, four call my turn bet. Two call my river bet, and my hand is good. Limp re-raiser had AK.

I don't know if my comment had any affect on them. It seemed to though. I rarely use the chat, and don't know why I even did it. Another psychologcial mystery I guess. Do any of you guys try anything like this online? What about live?

[illunious]

Isn't saying your hand against the rules? A couple of my friends scolded my when I did that, I never tried it at the casino. They related it to the "You are responsible for protecting your hand" rule.

[tj00]

I do not know, maybe someone else will post a reply to your question.

[baggins]

i think that is ludicrous.

of course you are responsible for protecting your hand. which means you take the consequences for *not* protecting your hand. it's your hand, for cryin out loud. if you want to give somebody the option to maximize the FTOP against you, by all means, go ahead. if you think the psychological ploy will make them call you down out of incredulity (which seems to be the case here) then by the same token, you should be able to do that.

i understand the problem with it in tournaments. but in a ring game, that's crap. tell your hand all you want.

[ChipWrecked]

Agreed. The older gentlemen I play 4/8 HE against are always talking about their hands. Sometimes they announce what they actually have, just to be tricky.

[PokerNoob]

Player A announcing his hand can give player B an advantage over player C by helping him to better know the pot odds, if as in this example somebody needs an ace for the straight and his four outer is now a two outer. Of course, player A could be lying.

[Mangatang]

Yeah, that's the point. All he did was "say" he had AA, he didn't show it. I think you should be able to "say" anything you want. You can lie about your hand (that's actually what bluffing is, in a sense) or you tell the truth. Our hero saying he has AA again shouldn't help another player unless that other player can get a read on our hero. Getting a read on a player, whether it be from his betting action or his physical/verbal tells, is part of poker.

I say talk away.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

It's the classic double-reverse psychological move. I have no problem with your maneuver because they'll like be more suspicious and call you down more often when you get a favorable board. I'd be less inclined to try this live tho. I would not do this very often tho.

al

[baggins]

i do it playing live when i feel the time is right. it works tremendously.

[dylhead]

Sometimes I find it better not to say I have "AA" but to say something to the effect of "I have a monster hand, you should really fold". Players tend to get less upset if you focus on their actions than if you say your exact hand. Remember the 98 WSOP when Scotty Nyugen told Kevin McBride "You call and it's all over". The board was 88899 and scotty had the other 9 for the bigger full house. McBride called and played the board because he figured scotty to be bluffing. It's an excellent move to use on inexperienced players because their perception of the game is that it's all about bluffing and they will call you down more often than not.