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Old 08-11-2004, 11:26 AM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default Blind Defense

On the Big Blind, with a preflop raiser from any position at poker stars 2/4, 1/2, and 3/6 I will call a single raise if it is heads up when I have to make the call with Any Two Cards excluding A2-A5, K2-K5 and Q2-Q5.

This includes, 23o, 27o, and 38 sooted.

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Old 08-11-2004, 01:30 PM
Louie Landale Louie Landale is offline
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Default Re: Blind Defense

Did you say you will call with J2 but not with A2?
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Old 08-11-2004, 01:48 PM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Default Re: Blind Defense

so if I read this right you'd call with 23o and 72o and many other crappy hands, but not A2-A5, K2-K5 or Q2-Q5.

This is plain idiotic. How much more discussion is really necessary here?

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Old 08-11-2004, 01:54 PM
meep_42 meep_42 is offline
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Default Re: Blind Defense

Any ace (192 combinations), any Face with an 8 or better (80), anything suited that's 2-gap or better (64), any connectors 67 and better (64), 79 (12), & 8T (12).

Just off the top of my head, depending on reads, of course.

That's about 30% blind defense -- is that too weak?

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Old 08-11-2004, 02:31 PM
meep_42 meep_42 is offline
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Default Re: Blind Defense

I'm a moron, the numbers are off, it's a 41.33 defense rate -- but, my question remains, what is a good number for that?

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Old 08-11-2004, 03:06 PM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default Re: Blind Defense

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so if I read this right you'd call with 23o and 72o and many other crappy hands, but not A2-A5, K2-K5 or Q2-Q5.

This is plain idiotic. How much more discussion is really necessary here?

al

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Where do you make the most money in poker outside of AA, KK, and QQ?

Dominated hands.
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Old 08-11-2004, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: Blind Defense

I'd add in pairs and play much tighter if it was an ep raise, I think Kaz generalizing and calling with the same cards no matter where the raise comes from is asinine

additionally, especialy if it were a LP raise, I would reraise about as often as I called.
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Old 08-11-2004, 03:38 PM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default Re: Blind Defense

38o, or 109suited does just as well (infact better in the case of 10-9) vs AK as it does vs KJ.

Over pairs are of course the exception, but they do not occur rarely enough to diminsh the EV of all the calls you're making.

Any time the raiser does not have one of your cards in his hand and is only simply over cards to your cards it is a HORRIBLE mistake to fold to a single raise.

If you KNEW he had AKo every time you would still call with 27o, 38o, 4Jo. It would be a large MISTAKE not too.
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Old 08-11-2004, 03:45 PM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default Re: Blind Defense

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Did you say you will call with J2 but not with A2?

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Yes. Now, why did I say that?
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Old 08-11-2004, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Blind Defense

This is actually correct -- the worst 27o is versus AKo is a 32-68 dog, suited about 30-70, and you're getting 3.5:1 on your money (if it wasn't SB raising), with excellent implied odds and an easily released hand if it doesn't improve. Any PP has you beat 7:3 or better, with 8s and up 8-1 favorites.

I'm leaning towards calling with just about any 2 most of the time against any open-raise and folds all the way to you.

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