stick it in

yvesaint · #1 11-04-2005, 01:26 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($537.40)
SB ($545.30)
Hero ($400)
UTG ($378)
MP ($491.25)
CO ($622.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $12, Button calls $12, SB calls $10, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($48) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $35, CO folds, Button calls $35, SB folds.

Turn: ($118) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $60, Button raises to $120, Hero calls $60.

River: ($358) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $233 (All-In)

no reads, literally the first hand at the table

what do you put him on when he min-raises the turn?

also, is just putting the rest in on the river bad?

Go_Blue88 · #2 11-04-2005, 01:59 AM

He played it like he has 77 or AA (maybe). With no reads I'm just getting it in on the turn.

Edited to add a lil reasoning-- He might min-raise the turn with AK or AA in order to try to control the pot. He wants a cheaper showdown with these hands.

Malachii · #3 11-04-2005, 02:40 AM

Hmm, tough hand. That turn minraise after his preflop cold call of the cutoff's raise is troublesome... I would consider 77 to be his most likely hand here. This is an ugly spot. I think after his turn raise I would either fold or want to see as cheap of a showdown as possible. Minraisers usually make puny value bets, so I'd check/call the river. I really can't put him on anything other than KQ,77, or MAYBE AA.

yvesaint · #4 11-04-2005, 02:52 AM

who doesnt reraise pre-flop with AA

then again, it could be that

but this played like 77 ....im thinking check-call should have been best

xorbie · #5 11-04-2005, 02:53 AM

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who doesnt reraise pre-flop with AA

then again, it could be that

but this played like 77 ....im thinking check-call should have been best

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Check/call sounds like a great way to only get money out of 77.

yvesaint · #6 11-04-2005, 02:55 AM

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Check/call sounds like a great way to only get money out of 77.

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yea, well, hand was even weirder than i thought. he had QQ and obviously took the pot

however he had some other really really weird plays afterwards

he re-raised from blinds to 55 with 78s

cold-called KK from the button after a raise and a call

got all-in on the turn against a 100 BB stack with K3s on a KcT9c board against AcTc and took that down too

RED FACE · #7 11-04-2005, 10:48 AM

I don't think tptk is strong enough to sp on that board. I put him on 77, QQ, KK, AA, KQ. I don't like the push on the river given this range and prefer to let him try to draw more money out of me and will likely call for the 5% of the time I'm actually ahead. I don't think you can fold out a better hand here.

djoyce003 · #8 11-04-2005, 10:57 AM

weird hand...i'd be real afraid of a set here...he didn't raise preflop so I think 77 is the most likely, especially given your holdings. I probably want to check call this river...he'll probably make some stupid minbet cuz he's an idiot minraiser. Maybe you can showdown cheap...i'm not looking to play a monster pot with two pair here given the action.

#9 11-04-2005, 11:23 AM

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Check/call sounds like a great way to only get money out of 77.

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Check/call sounds to me like a great way to pay 77, but get very little out of anything you beat. Is villain going to call your all in with a hand like KJ? How about AQ?

If OP is willing to play this hand for all his chips, he should be willing to check/call any bet from villain. Villain could make bets with a lot of hands on the river, the vast majority of which Hero is ahead of.