Tough hand, loose-passive table (QJs, SB)

[Entity]

Super loose-passive 1/2 table at Pacific. The table is just disgustingly bad, but I'm not getting cards.

6 limpers to me in the SB, and I raise with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. BB folds, everyone else calls.

7 to the flop for 15SB.

Flop comes J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

I bet, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 other callers, 2 people fold.

5 to the turn for 10BB.

Turn comes 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

I bet, 2 callers, two folds.

River comes 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

I bet, UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, I . . .

Comments on the rest of the hand?

Rob

[Shillx]

I will bet you $20 that he has a 3. Fold. Remember that he is raising you and a caller.

Shill

[toss]

If the table is really passive, then I don't see why UTG would raise the river without the 3s. I'd have to say your behind here so I would just call.

[GrunchCan]

Fold.

Tell me your'e kidding or drunk.

[GrunchCan]

Calling is standard. But if you have seen the rasier do this with as litle as a naked J, then I'd reraise. A lot of times when the board pairs on the end, really bad players perk up, thinking, "Hey Iv'e got 2 pair!" But they have to be really bad for this move, so raise jusdiciously.

[radek2166]

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really bad players perk up, thinking, "Hey Iv'e got 2 pair!" But they have to be really bad for this move,

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THats the line of the day.

[nothumb]

It's true. I just watched someone do it on a table at Paradise. They forget that you still have a kicker with two pair.

I think you call on the river. But you un-check the 'muck losing hands' option, and you make him wait the maximum ammount of time before you muck to his 43o.

NT

[Entity]

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I think you call on the river. But you un-check the 'muck losing hands' option, and you make him wait the maximum ammount of time before you muck to his 43o.

NT

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Close. It was actually 32o.

Rob

[Reqtech]

Considering that you're first to act on the flop, I'd go for a check raise since you aren't going to protect your hand with such a big pot, nearly any hand has the odds to call one bet.

-edit- hmm, for 15 bets, nearly any hand will have the odds to call for 2 bets. so I think that you did fine by building the pot -edit-

Though, you did say the table was very passive, so maybe the bet wouldn't come through and your bet out front to build the pot came through.

I'm sure that UTG+1 has the 3, but for 16BB you have to call.

[DeathDonkey]

Fold, protected pot, loose passive goofballs. You know what he has. Calling is just throwing $2 away, your better than that.

-DeathDonkey