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Old 02-20-2005, 11:51 AM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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Default an odd 3/5 hand from the bike

Typically crazy 3-5NL ($200max) game from the bike.

Hero in SB w/ ~$800.
Old Aisian Loose Guy utg w/ ~$500.
Loose preflop white dude who tightens up postflop in MP.
A few other crazies who are driving the game have folded in this hand.

Blinds 3/5.
UTG limps.
MP raises to 20. This simply means that he has a playable hand (what he considers playable, anyway), since he doesn't limp preflop...he folds or raises, no matter his hand.

Folded to hero in SB w/ AcKc.
Hero flat calls. UTG calls.

Flop is Kh 4s 6d.
Hero checks, utg checks, MP bets 60. Hero calls, utg calls.

turn 7c.
hero, utg check. MP bets 75, hero calls, utg folds.

before the river comes out, hero goes all in in the dark.

kind of odd, no?
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Old 02-20-2005, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: an odd 3/5 hand from the bike

How many chips does MP have?
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Old 02-21-2005, 12:49 AM
SossMan SossMan is offline
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Default Re: an odd 3/5 hand from the bike

duh, sorry.
He had about $400 to start the hand.
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Old 02-21-2005, 01:04 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: an odd 3/5 hand from the bike

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kind of odd, no?

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Yes. Why not just check/raise the turn?
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Old 02-21-2005, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: an odd 3/5 hand from the bike

What if UTG has a big hand (like a set)? Are we that worried about the straight draws and two pair draws?

I don't think SossMan's line is horrible.
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Old 02-21-2005, 12:08 PM
thatpfunk thatpfunk is offline
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Default Re: an odd 3/5 hand from the bike

What do you gain by the dark all-in?

The only logical thought-process is you would like to CR the turn, but because of UTG, you cannot. Once he folds, you are essentially CRing all in.

Depends on the player (his calling standards, etc) but I kinda like it unless it makes him fold KQ, KJ. I trust you believe this was the best way to get the most $$ out of him as opposed to a value bet or a check to induce a bluff/bet.
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Old 02-21-2005, 12:35 PM
Jason Strasser Jason Strasser is offline
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Default Re: an odd 3/5 hand from the bike

Its an acceptable line if the opponent will call with a hand you beat. Most players I play against live will not call here if they are behind, but I have no idea about this game. I need to turn 21.

-Jason
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Old 02-21-2005, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: an odd 3/5 hand from the bike

Why waste the possibility of MP folding before the river by going all in the dark? Let him see if he makes a straight or trips or full before deciding to call a TPTK? doesn't make sense.
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