Why Hachem flat called with JJ

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There was some discussion here as to why Hachem flat called with JJ when Barch went allin and Dannenman called.

This is from some ESPN chat posted on this forum. It seems like Hachem wanted someone to knock out Barch. I think he felt he could probably win the bracelet if he got heads up with Dannenman.
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rastapete (Kingston, Jamaica): When Tex Barch pushed and Dannenman flat-called, did you think about re-raising to try to get heads-up against Barch with your JJ?

Joseph Hachem: (5:22 PM ET ) I had 2 options. Push all in and get heads up or flat call. I think 8/10 times I would have pushed all in when Dannenmann flat calls, but for whatever reason I didnt that time. I had just gotten the chip lead and I didn't want to play a huge pot. If Steve does the right thing and check it down and we knock Tex out, then I've got Steve heads up and I can try to win the bracelet.

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[Fallen Hero]

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There was some discussion here as to why Hachem flat called with JJ when Barch went allin and Dannenman called.

This is from some ESPN chat posted on this forum. It seems like Hachem wanted someone to knock out Barch. I think he felt he could probably win the bracelet if he got heads up with Dannenman.
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rastapete (Kingston, Jamaica): When Tex Barch pushed and Dannenman flat-called, did you think about re-raising to try to get heads-up against Barch with your JJ?

Joseph Hachem: (5:22 PM ET ) I had 2 options. Push all in and get heads up or flat call. I think 8/10 times I would have pushed all in when Dannenmann flat calls, but for whatever reason I didnt that time. I had just gotten the chip lead and I didn't want to play a huge pot. If Steve does the right thing and check it down and we knock Tex out, then I've got Steve heads up and I can try to win the bracelet.

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it's funny to see people playing for 7.5million talk about the "right thing" in that context. The right thing is to fight for the most important pot of the tournament.

[maryfield48]

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There was some discussion here as to why Hachem flat called with JJ when Barch went allin and Dannenman called.

This is from some ESPN chat posted on this forum. It seems like Hachem wanted someone to knock out Barch. I think he felt he could probably win the bracelet if he got heads up with Dannenman.
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rastapete (Kingston, Jamaica): When Tex Barch pushed and Dannenman flat-called, did you think about re-raising to try to get heads-up against Barch with your JJ?

Joseph Hachem: (5:22 PM ET ) I had 2 options. Push all in and get heads up or flat call. I think 8/10 times I would have pushed all in when Dannenmann flat calls, but for whatever reason I didnt that time. I had just gotten the chip lead and I didn't want to play a huge pot. If Steve does the right thing and check it down and we knock Tex out, then I've got Steve heads up and I can try to win the bracelet.

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I am rastapete. I agree with you, Hachem made the judgement that he gained more from increasing the chances that Barch would be knocked out, than from increasing his equity in that pot. It was a thinking play, right or wrong.

[Freudian]

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it's funny to see people playing for 7.5million talk about the "right thing" in that context. The right thing is to fight for the most important pot of the tournament.

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It is about money and not about tournament chips. Whatever is bound to make you the most money is the right thing to do.

[danzasmack]

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it's funny to see people playing for 7.5million talk about the "right thing" in that context. The right thing is to fight for the most important pot of the tournament.

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Also, maybe he felt he had a better match up heads up with Dannenmann and wanted Barch out.

[NLfool]

he also said something to the effect that if Dannenman had pushed he might have folded. ? 3 handed after showing weakness and flat calling he would fold JJ in that spot?

[Fallen Hero]

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it's funny to see people playing for 7.5million talk about the "right thing" in that context. The right thing is to fight for the most important pot of the tournament.

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It is about money and not about tournament chips. Whatever is bound to make you the most money is the right thing to do.

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checking this down and risking being blown off the best hand is not a good decision money wise

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he also said something to the effect that if Dannenman had pushed he might have folded. ? 3 handed after showing weakness and flat calling he would fold JJ in that spot?

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I think it comes down to strategy. He doesn't want to take a big risk. He just wants Barch knocked out so he gets heads up with Dannenman.

[betgo]

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There was some discussion here as to why Hachem flat called with JJ when Barch went allin and Dannenman called.

This is from some ESPN chat posted on this forum. It seems like Hachem wanted someone to knock out Barch. I think he felt he could probably win the bracelet if he got heads up with Dannenman.
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rastapete (Kingston, Jamaica): When Tex Barch pushed and Dannenman flat-called, did you think about re-raising to try to get heads-up against Barch with your JJ?

Joseph Hachem: (5:22 PM ET ) I had 2 options. Push all in and get heads up or flat call. I think 8/10 times I would have pushed all in when Dannenmann flat calls, but for whatever reason I didnt that time. I had just gotten the chip lead and I didn't want to play a huge pot. If Steve does the right thing and check it down and we knock Tex out, then I've got Steve heads up and I can try to win the bracelet.

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it's funny to see people playing for 7.5million talk about the "right thing" in that context. The right thing is to fight for the most important pot of the tournament.

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I think Hachem was being slightly ironic when he said "do the right thing." Also, this may be British Australian proper talk.

It is generally not a good idea to bluff at a dry side pot. He figures Dannenman won't be stupid enough to bet after the flop if he can't beat a pair of jacks.

Also, from a strategic standpoint, Dannenman wants Barch out of there as much as Hachem does. If Burch triples up, Dannenman is likley to finish third against teo strong players.

The money difference from 3rd to 2nd was monstrously, gigantically, huge. Even if he lost the hand to Dannenman in the check down, Hachem was still in a good chance to get first anyway based on chip count.