Help! 99 flops a set but can't take the heat

Bodhi · #1 07-26-2005, 04:06 PM

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

The BB just sat down, and the CO is obviously new too. I wish I had more to say for reads. If I played this like crap then go ahead and rip into me.

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, CO (poster) calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, UTG+1 calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (29 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, UTG+1 folds, CO raises, Hero calls, BB 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 41 BB

thejameser · #2 07-26-2005, 04:10 PM

3-bet preflop.

Harv72b · #3 07-26-2005, 04:12 PM

Nice hand. When the river rolls around and BB & the CO poster are both still raising, I also give enough credit for TT/J8/86 to slow down, but not enough to fold. It does kinda suck that both of them got to the flop at a discount, which makes the straight hands very possible.

Bodhi · #4 07-26-2005, 04:14 PM

Yeah, I thought about 3-betting preflop, though I didn't think it would accomplish much. In fact, I was about to 3 bet, but when the CO called I figured everyone was going along for the ride.

Harv72b · #5 07-26-2005, 04:14 PM

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3-bet preflop.

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I do not like this play. Even if you convince BB & UTG to fold, UTG+1 obviously won't and CO is highly unlikely to fold for 1 more bet after putting two in already (well, 1 + posting). So the end result is that Hero winds up playing at least 2 opponents from OOP with 99.

I much prefer waiting for a favorable flop in this situation, before putting in extra bets.

krimson · #6 07-26-2005, 04:15 PM

I can't see anything I would have done differently. I start getting suspicious of being beat when CO raises on the turn, but with a set of 9's there is just no easy way to get out of this hand.

TheHammer24 · #7 07-26-2005, 04:17 PM

I don't like 3-Betting 99 OOP in a 2/4 hand with a lot of limpers.

This hand is seriously crazy. I have PF Raiser on something like AA KK, but I the others I don't know. I like leading out on the turn to protect your hand, but after the fact I doubt anyone was folding.

I'm taking from your tone you lost this hand.

imported_leader · #8 07-26-2005, 04:30 PM

The only point you can even think about folding is when it comes back 2 the second time on the river, but the pot is just to big by then. You just have to have to hope that BB has 77 and CO has a turned set or a horribly over played two pair.

#9 07-26-2005, 04:34 PM

Seems like either BB or CO flopped a straight and the other flopped a set or two pair. Against TT, you have only two outs. Against any other hand you have 7 outs on the flop and 10 outs on the turn. You are getting odds to call everywhere except on the river. I don't think it's absolutely terrible to check/fold the river when you don't improve. It's what I would want to do, but I don't know if I'd have the power.

Bodhi · #10 07-26-2005, 04:43 PM

Yeah, folding the river when I didn't improve is not something I'm capable of, yet. If I had a good read on these two, that both were passive, then I could fold the river.