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View Poll Results: WCOOP Event #4 ($200+$15 PLHE 6-max, Wednesday 9/7, 3PM EST)
>2000 10 45.45%
1500-2000 0 0%
1000-1400 7 31.82%
<1000 5 22.73%
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:51 PM
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Default 6-Max Preflop Hand Selection

Just a few polls to see what the standard hand selection is for 2+2 6max players. Please don't reply if you are a consistant loser in 6 max NL games or if you are exceedingly LAG. Assume that the tbale is of an average tightness and you have no reads...

Edit: I know some of the answers seem silly but please take this poll seriously (AA everyone plays UTG, just made too many options accidentally). Thanks
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: 6-Max Preflop Hand Selection

2 people so far fold AT off preflop, that's one where I'm always very unsure, the T is a face card so I have a mental block that tells me it should be a good hand, but I feel like the fact that I always play it might be a leak.

Edit: Also stunned at the amount of people plaing 22-55 UTG.
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:11 PM
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Edit: Also stunned at the amount of people playing 22-55 UTG.

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Why? This is not limit. Are you familar with the 5/10 rule?
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: 6-Max Preflop Hand Selection

No I am not and this is why I made this poll, because there is something wrong with my game... what is the 5/10 rule?
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: 6-Max Preflop Hand Selection

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No I am not and this is why I made this poll, because there is something wrong with my game... what is the 5/10 rule?

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[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] the FAQ~

Q: I've heard other posters mentioning the 5/10 rule. What is it?

A: The 5/10 rule is an important no-limit concept that first appeared in Bob Ciaffone's excellent book, "PL &amp; NL Poker." To quote directly from the book:

"When contemplating calling a raise because your position is good, you have a clear call if the raise is less than 5% of your stack, and a clear fold if it is more than 10%. In between those numbers, use your judgement."

It's a good rule for calling a preflop raise with a pocket pair in hopes of hitting a set. The driving force behind the concept is the implied odds in a given situation. If you get your set, but the opponent only has 5BBs after the initial raise, calling to hit the set in the first place is incorrect.
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: 6-Max Preflop Hand Selection

Thanks, gonna head to the FAQ and read through that now.

Thing is though, even knowing that I still think the play is wrong since I said UTG, meaning you will face a raise a fair amount of the time and your position postflop isn't that great. But I folded 77 today to raise that was about 3% of my stack, which I wouldn't have done knowing this info.
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:44 PM
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Raise QQ-AA from anywhere. Raise JJ from late. Limp all other pairs looking for trips - will call upto 4xBB assuming player has a sufficient stack - at least 15BB.

Limp Ace suited from anywhere looking for nut flush. Limp king suited from late.

This assumes a weak table without a lot of preflop raising.
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: 6-Max Preflop Hand Selection

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Thanks, gonna head to the FAQ and read through that now.

Thing is though, even knowing that I still think the play is wrong since I said UTG, meaning you will face a raise a fair amount of the time and your position postflop isn't that great. But I folded 77 today to raise that was about 3% of my stack, which I wouldn't have done knowing this info.

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Facing a raise isn't bad if it meets the 5/10 rule. Multiway is even better. Plus you can dump that crappy pp if you miss the flop as opposed to when your Axs catches a flush draw...........All my pp from 22-AA are winners for me over the 75k hands I hand logged in Pokertracker.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:23 PM
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Raise QQ-AA from anywhere. Raise JJ from late. Limp all other pairs looking for trips - will call upto 4xBB assuming player has a sufficient stack - at least 15BB.

Limp Ace suited from anywhere looking for nut flush. Limp king suited from late.

This assumes a weak table without a lot of preflop raising.

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Is raising TT-JJ UTG generally accepted as a mistake? I do this standard.

So f-ing happy I made this thread, folding loads of PPs I should be playing.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: 6-Max Preflop Hand Selection

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Raise QQ-AA from anywhere. Raise JJ from late. Limp all other pairs looking for trips - will call upto 4xBB assuming player has a sufficient stack - at least 15BB.

Limp Ace suited from anywhere looking for nut flush. Limp king suited from late.

This assumes a weak table without a lot of preflop raising.

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Is raising TT-JJ UTG generally accepted as a mistake? I do this standard.

So f-ing happy I made this thread, folding loads of PPs I should be playing.

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I think that if playing 22 UTG is a mistake in 6max, then it's a very marginal one. PPs kick ass in NLH.

Also, I'm the only one who is playing Ax suited UTG. I do this only with the right conditions. These include:

1) passive non-raising table
2) I have weak players to my left who I can outplay
3) people are paying off hands like a made flush when they shouldn't
4) stacks are relatively deep
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