2 KK Hands.....

Gomez22 · #1 11-11-2004, 12:49 AM

HAND #1 - Is there any way I can bet this river???
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Preflop: Gomez22 is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, Gomez22 raises, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Gomez22 bets, CO calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Gomez22 bets, CO folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 folds.

River: (8.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Gomez22 checks.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB
Main Pot: 8.75 BB, between UTG and Gomez22.

HAND #2 - Just for fun. (I got a wireless logitech mouse & keyboard back in August and sometimes my mouse "skips" around on the screen. I thought this was unfortunate PF, but after the hand, I was glad the little bugger decided to "skip" to fold right when I went to click the "raise" button.)
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Preflop: Gomez22 is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG+2 posts a blind of $1.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 (poster) checks, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Gomez22 folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets, MP3 raises, BB folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets, UTG+2 raises, MP3 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB
Main Pot: 7.75 BB, between UTG+2 and MP3. > Pot won by UTG+2 (7.75 BB).

Results in white below: 
UTG+2 has Jh 4h (flush, king high).
MP3 has 7s Ts (two pair, tens and sevens).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins 7.75 BB. 

FYI - I am relatively confidant that UTG+2 would NOT have folded to a 3-bet on the flop.

Nick C · #2 11-11-2004, 01:20 AM

Hand 1: The river card didn't change anything (except that you no longer have a redraw, if UTG was patient enough to wait until now to go for the check-raise). I'd bet and then cringe and call if I got check-raised.

Hand 2: For what it's worth: After the horrible preflop call, I don't think UTG+2 SHOULD have folded to a flop 3-bet.

Edit: Actually, on second thought, it's quite possible that UTG has a jack in Hand 1 and is scared of the flush. I don't know what you should do on the river. Checking behind seems reasonable.

Piiop · #3 11-11-2004, 01:29 AM

Bet the river.