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Would you make this kind of play?
Hi all,
Just looking for comments to see if there is any right answer or a leaning towards an anwswer. This was a $5 rebuy stars tourny with 1st place ~3.5k. Its early after the rebuy period, and I have 16.7k and the average stack is ~9.5k, (so I'm doing O.K. up to now). I have been fighting with a very experienced friend, (who doesn't play much online, but does play big-money, (10k), live tournies), who tells me I played this had wrong and risked my whole tournament. He states I should have raised at least 1000 and therefore seat 5 may not have called and I'd still be in the tournament. My feeling is that this is exactly the situation I was looking for. I was a 4 to 1 favorite on the flop all-in. His claim is I played it wrong, (and probably therefore deserve to lose). My thought is that if I wind-up in this situation, I'm in really great shape, and this is what you have to do to accumluate chips. Having said that, if an overcard flops, I play very very cautiously and probably dump the hand with resistance. But I'm looking for a possible big score here instead of grinding out a bunch of little ones. Of course, I understand you must mostly do grinding, but my premis is that 20% of the time you try something like this. Now of course part of the problem is that seat 5 has me covered, but that's also how i can make money. If I make my 4 to 1, I basically catapult towards the top, otherwise I'm out. Basically is it worth it? Seat #3, (Me), is the button and all have folded to me so far... Seat 1: Spanky4869 (2092 in chips) Seat 2: nige_38 (7455 in chips) Seat 3: Hero (16708 in chips) Seat 4: stabia62 (21148 in chips) Seat 5: Villian (25925 in chips) Seat 6: pios76 (10625 in chips) Seat 7: djjb (11675 in chips) Seat 8: The Student2 (4525 in chips) Seat 9: Spoony135 (25246 in chips) Spanky4869: posts the ante 25 nige_38: posts the ante 25 Hero: posts the ante 25 stabia62: posts the ante 25 Villian: posts the ante 25 pios76: posts the ante 25 djjb: posts the ante 25 The Student2: posts the ante 25 Spoony135: posts the ante 25 stabia62: posts small blind 100 Villian: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Hero [Td Ts] pios76: folds djjb: folds The Student2: folds Spoony135: folds Spanky4869: folds nige_38: folds Hero: raises 400 to 600 stabia62: folds Villian: calls 400 *** FLOP *** [2c 4s 8h] Villian: bets 800 Hero: raises 1600 to 2400 Villian: raises 3600 to 6000 Hero: raises 10083 to 16083 and is all-in Villian: calls 10083 *** TURN *** [2c 4s 8h] [6c] *** RIVER *** [2c 4s 8h 6c] [8c] *** SHOW DOWN *** Villian: shows [Kh 8s] (three of a kind, Eights) Hero: shows [Td Ts] (two pair, Tens and Eights) Villian collected 33691 from pot |
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Re: Would you make this kind of play?
You raise gave him odds to call preflop but thats about the only thing I can find wrong. A raise to 800 is better but 1000 is too much I think. You got a bad beat but played it fine. Your friend is wrong.
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Re: Would you make this kind of play?
Villain seems to have been convinced you were stealing. Excellent for you (since you weren't), except for the part where he drew out.
Given his willingness to go to the felt (well, take you to the felt) with only top pair in spite of pretty strong evidence of a better hand, I suspect playing it differently would have yielded much the same result. (Except where playing it differently includes folding.) |
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Re: Would you make this kind of play?
Tell your friend to stop wasting his money entering the big events.
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Re: Would you make this kind of play?
3x raise is standard. i think ur friend is definately thinking results oriented. i think u can get away once he 3-bets the flop but this is shortyl after the rebuy period and there are still a lot of bad players left that will do this with hands like A8,k8 etc.
and i think ur thinking on accumulating chips is pretty much spot on |
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