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Old 07-05-2005, 07:42 AM
Mig Mig is offline
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Default Anyone fold that overpair on the turn ??

Vilain is unknown . First orbit. Do you 3 bet and take a free showdown. Do you 3 bet and fold to a cap ? Do you fold here and give him credit for a five or a str8 ?


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Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img].
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Old 07-05-2005, 07:45 AM
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Default Re: Anyone fold that overpair on the turn ??

An unknown I will usually just call and let him shoot on the river again and call. Not a chance I'm folding this.
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Old 07-05-2005, 07:49 AM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Default Re: Anyone fold that overpair on the turn ??

Riding out a downswing or something? I would fold this exactly never.
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Old 07-05-2005, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: Anyone fold that overpair on the turn ??

Call him down. He has no idea you are this strong. He could be pulling this move with anything--including a 5 of course which he probably have. But you can't possibly fold.

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Old 07-05-2005, 08:29 AM
Mig Mig is offline
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Default Re: Anyone fold that overpair on the turn ??

If the board was A55 instead, that would be an easy fold right ? Or most of you would call him down ?
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Old 07-05-2005, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: Anyone fold that overpair on the turn ??

If the button called the turn then you could fold. Since the button folded, call down.
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:45 AM
jquattro jquattro is offline
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Default Re: Anyone fold that overpair on the turn ??

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If the button called the turn then you could fold. Since the button folded, call down.

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I'm confused. What are we worried the button has? Id say a 5 is rare for a late coldcaller. Furthermore, the button wasnt facing two cold, but one at a time (if hed called heros original bet).

Call down is easy.
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Anyone fold that overpair on the turn ??

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If the button called the turn then you could fold. Since the button folded, call down.

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I'm confused. What are we worried the button has? Id say a 5 is rare for a late coldcaller. Furthermore, the button wasnt facing two cold, but one at a time (if hed called heros original bet)

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When the button calls and the BB checkraises, you're not worried about the button, but suddenly the chances of the BB checkraising a bluff or semibluff drop immensely because the probablity of making two people fold is very low.
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: Anyone fold that overpair on the turn ??

2 responses is enough
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:50 AM
rory rory is offline
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Default Re: Anyone fold that overpair on the turn ??

Not worried about the button-- the blind check raising two guys who show interest in this pot is a much stronger play than just check-raising one guy heads up. He is much less likely to be trying to make a move if the button calls the turn bet, so you can fold your overpair.
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