3-bet this river with QQ?

[MarkGritter]

Pacific Poker 0.25/0.50, 9 handed

MP2 is loose/aggressive, I've seen him bet any part of the flop to the river. SB is unknown, has seen a lot of flops in the few hands he's been at the table but hasn't shown down much.

Preflop: Hero is in MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players, 9 SB)

SB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, MP1 folds.

I no longer remember what the heck I was thinking here. Maybe I was going for overcalls, but my hand's not strong enough. I should have raised.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 6 BB)

MP1 checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP1 calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 12 BB)

MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, Hero...?

The possible flush is obviously scary, as is getting check/raised. MP1 could have hit a full house or a backdoor flush draw (8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], for example.) A slow played 2 doesn't make much sense. My read is that it's much more likely they both have 9's or maybe pocket pairs.

Would you call here with top two pair, or 3-bet, since MP2 seems to be along for the ride? Folding is not an option with 18 BB in the pot.

[Reef]

I just call here. I really don't want it to be capped.

[btspider]

i'd cry foul. MP1 folds the flop and then arises like the legendary phoenix to check-raise you later. what a jerk!

i'd raise the flop. backdoor flush + overcard has odds to continue when you don't raise.

call the river.

[bear187]

Yeah, just end the action here. Did he have the flush? I smell a rat. :O

[MarkGritter]

Doh! The perils of hand-crafted posts. The villian is SB, not MP1. Too late to edit. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

[topspin]

Raise the flop, the pot is large and you'd be happy to have someone holding overcards to your big pair fold. Just call the river check-raise.

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Wow, I didn't even notice that it was hand-crafted. Well done! A nice change from the cut-and-paste hand history mess that we often see posted from converter-incompatible sites.

[Kumubou]

You can't even copy and paste from Pacific, that's why. You can play them back in the client with a nice GUI and all (kinda cool, actually...)

Come out firing on the flop, if only to find out where you stand. Odds are if someone has KK/AA (which I highly doubt, given the pre-flop play) or 99 or one or more 2s (or 92), they would let you know. You also may knock out someone on a backdoor flush draw when it comes two cold to them (or not, knowing how most people on Pacific play).

Turn is fine, and would make me question anyone holding trips or better. If they do, that's one hell of a slow-played set they have there.

Ugh to the river (not your play, just what came down). A check raise from MP1, after showing zero aggression? Either they're bluffing you or they hit the running flush. You really have no choice other than to call this, given that (unless you have a read as a guy who will randomly raise with trash).

-K

[Ian M.]

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i'd cry foul. MP1 folds the flop and then arises like the legendary phoenix to check-raise you later. what a jerk!

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haha, hilarious.

[guitarhero14]

without a read on the villian(SB, right?) I would say just call.

[MarkGritter]

I called, SB showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] for a lower two pair, and MHIG. No flush.