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Old 02-09-2005, 01:02 PM
Jedster Jedster is offline
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Default Hitting the nut straight on a 3-suited flop without a redraw

2-4 blind, 200 max game at a strip casino. Villain ($800+) is a drunk maniac who has raised any paint and almost every suited connector. Raises usually between 30 and 70. The rest of the table is typical of a Vegas game with three or four good/decent players. My friend ($400) is one of the better players at the table and he's the hero of this hand.

Preflop action:

Villain limps for $4, hero limps for $4 with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], three players call behind hero, small blind completes, and big blind checks.

Flop:

K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero has flopped the nut straight, but has no redraw, and may be beat. Big blind ($110 behind) bets $15, maniac raises to $105. Action is on the hero with five players to act (three have position, SB and BB obviously don't).

What's your action? (Yes I know he could have raised, giving himself better position on the maniac, making the hand easier to play. That might be the real answer here, but let's assume the pre-flop action that occurred.)

Results to follow.

-Jed
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:16 PM
antifish225 antifish225 is offline
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Default Re: Hitting the nut straight on a 3-suited flop without a redraw

Have to lay it down, even if he leading at this point with his str8 (with is doubtful as 7 players saw the flop - lots of suited connectors, AxS out there) he HAS to lay down if another spade hits on the turn or on the river (and roughly there that is 2-1 proposition) - you there is ~150 in the pot and it costs you 105 to see the next card (and who knows how much to see the river assuming thebig stack villan calls the raise) - you are not getting the correct odds to call........IF he had made a moderate raise before the flop and was facing only 1-2 players total then a call would be OK.......just my opinion.....
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