odds on espn correct??

faxwoods · #1 08-03-2004, 09:23 PM

hand b/t helmuth and lee:
lee has a/4 of clubs
helmuth has QQ
lee raises and helmuth puts him all in. lee calls. flop comes rags with 1 club. turn is a club. at this point espn shows lee has 12% to beat helmuths QQ at 88%.
lee has 12 outs which makes him about a 27% favorite to beat helmuth's QQ. is espn wrong with the odds? or did they take into account the other players hole cards already?

jacki · #2 08-03-2004, 10:14 PM

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or did they take into account the other players hole cards already?

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yes, if other threads on here about the same topic are to be believed.

jomatty · #3 08-03-2004, 10:15 PM

they do, im pretty sure take the folded cards into account.

ohgeetee · #4 08-04-2004, 11:07 AM

They take known folded cards into account, and also will round off oddly to make their percentages add up to 100%.

If a hand has a .3% chance to tie, 22.2% chance to win vs opponent's 77.5% chance to win, espn will show it 23% to 77%

on hands where a tie is more prevalent, they will let the shown % not add up to 100, and usually offer an explanation as to why they don't.